For the gun people, a crazy player question ...

[mmadsen]

In terms of game mechanics, a lot of the problems here stem from escalating hit points as a measure of "bad-assed-ness"; without that conceit, as in real life, doing three times as much damage (on a perfect hit) wouldn't matter much. It's hitting in the first place that's the challenge.

 

[tburdett]

Waitaminute - he shot the 12 ga. one handed (earning a lump), then tried to shoot the 20 ga the same way??!? Sounds like a frontrunner in the 2005 Darwin Awards.

I've fired a 20 ga one handed and it was no problem. I'm not sure I'd try to do it with a 12 ga, and there's no way I'd try it with a 10 ga.

 

[Pierce]

I've fired a 20 ga one handed and it was no problem. I'm not sure I'd try to do it with a 12 ga, and there's no way I'd try it with a 10 ga.

Oh mind you, I'm not saying firing a 20 ga one handed is impossible. Just that the guy just earned himself a slight concussion trying the same trick (albeit with a different gun) moments before. Personally, I'll keep both hands on the weapon, thankyouverymuch.

 

[Pierce]

A 20-gauge shotgun fires a smaller round than a 12-gauge. Shotgun gauge has a peculiar definition: the number of lead spheres of that diameter that would add up to one pound.

I'm clear on that. Just saying that I'd figure the guy would be a bit more cautious after a self-clubbing.

 

[Danos402]

I've fired a 20 ga one handed and it was no problem. I'm not sure I'd try to do it with a 12 ga, and there's no way I'd try it with a 10 ga.

firing a 12 and 20 gauge one handed is no problem as long as they are not "cut down models" the 20 gauge 870 wingmaster (made by remingtron) is a sweet toy that I have hit teal and drake and a goose or 2 one handed and downed them ... same with the 12's .. Mossberg can be fired one handed though I do not think I would want to fire a 12 sawed off unless I used both hands ... besides let's just say the guy was less than an ideal specimen of intellect .. later on an outdoor excursion he used poison ivy to wipe himself .. so he's not the brightest star in teh sky... but he's great for using the buddy system... and that's my definition of the buddy system.. for gaming...

Buddy system means you don't have to outswim the shark.. you just have to outswim your buddy ..LOL ..

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

This is becoming more of a general player issue, but... split.

I feel a bit sorry for the guy, as he's clearly stuck with a group that's just not for him (I'm turning that around a bit, since I'm fairly sure the guy isn't malicious).

That being said, you *can* play the Combat Guy in an investigative campaign, just not by charging people with SMGs. I'd go heavy on the martial arts, stealth and pistols with silencers, myself, and then do my darnedest to own the combat scenes.

Brad

 

[tenkar]

Back to the issue of spraying Pam on ammo: you're asking for trouble. Too much oil on a semi-automatic (more then a small drop or so on the slide) attracts dust and gums up the works real fast. Sparying Pam on ammo is going do that and then some. Its hard enough putting the last round in a nice and tight magazine, picture trying that with a nice coating of cooking oil. I imagine there is also a chance of a quick flash burn off of the oil; maybe Hammerhead can give it a try. My job would hit me with charges if I brought Pam'ed ammo to the range.

Revolvers are more forgiving with abuse of this type. I doubt it would cause more then a misfire if even that. In anycase the oil would be burned off before it reached the intended target.

Hmm, wonder if one could use Pam as an emergency replacement for WD-40? Might have to try that out

 

[Danos402]

Back to the issue of spraying Pam on ammo: you're asking for trouble.
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Hrmmm Using PAM as a teflon alternative.. it won't stay on the round .. and he wants to use it to make AP rounds??? That's a pretty creative way of looking at it.. but she could always allow him to use it and just treat it as no effect and not tell him..
PC :spray em down with my AP rounds
GM: you hit him in the chest and he shrugs it off
PC : they are AP rounds
GM : (rolls dice) Looks like some new body armor (if he
manages to kill them..

Could a nailgun penetrate body armor ? I mean I have put nails into concrete? at least then he could walk around with a tool belt (with tools) and say he is a carpenter on his way home ?

 

[ragboy]

OK, in the interest of curiosity, I went out and tried this...

This is priceless.

On the player-DM issues: If the guy's character is reacting to the situation by wanting more firepower, this is totally valid and can make for some great role-playing situations. An excellent illustration of this is in the movie Reign of Fire. The heroes have rocket launchers and they're being chased around by the dragon. One of the most intense parts of that scene is when the hero looks down and all his RPG rounds are gone. Then he has to rush around, avoid the dragon and find his ammo.

This guy's boom stick (as excellently conceived by Warlord...jeez. You're a madman) could add the same kind of tension, especially due to the ad-hoc nature of the weapon. And, even though he and other heroes may get hurt in the process, using it could be the climax of an adventure (or even the campaign). This could give him a great gaming experience and shouldn't detract too much from the others. Of course, if he wants to use it in every encounter, you now have mitigation for this as well by having his hand explode, spraying red jello all over the place.

Anyway... great thread.

 

[ragboy]

Well, I actually ran everything before I got Ralt's reply, but I'm definately printing it out and telling him while it "sort" of worked once, I wouldn't suggest using it again.

Yea. Nevermind my ramblings. I didn't realize it was THAT bad...