D&D 5E (2014) For the Record: Mearls on Warlords (ca. 2013)

[Aldarc]

Also, as has been repeatedly pointed out by numerous people, the first go-to every time someone tries to describe the warlord, is "military commander". It's almost cliche at this point. That's not a class. It's a background in the PHB. This is the same flawed mentality when I see people wanting to homebrew a knight class. (Hey, buddy, knight is already a background in 5e.)

Other classes made "redundant" by 5E PHB backgrounds: fighter (soldier), cleric (acolyte), rogue (criminal), and the bard (entertainer).

 

[MechaPilot]

Nice.

No, it's really not. I'd much rather have a civil conversation with someone than be misrepresented, accused of having motivations that I don't have, and have polite requests for information ignored. I don't come to D&D forums for those things. I come here to talk to other people who like D&D. If other people have a difference of opinion with me about something, hey, that's fine; I don't expect everyone to agree with me. All I do expect is some civility, and to be treated like an individual instead of being lumped in with the words and motivations of other posters.

 

[ChrisCarlson]

No, it's really not. I'd much rather have a civil conversation with someone than be misrepresented, accused of having motivations that I don't have, and have polite requests for information ignored. I don't come to D&D forums for those things. I come here to talk to other people who like D&D. If other people have a difference of opinion with me about something, hey, that's fine; I don't expect everyone to agree with me. All I do expect is some civility, and to be treated like an individual instead of being lumped in with the words and motivations of other posters.

That's a great point. Sorta like how I'd rather not be told my opinions are wrong, that I'm confused, or it be implied my posts have ulterior motives as well. In a perfect world I'd like to think we would both have our way. If there is any objective truth, it's that the internet is far from a perfect world.

 

[Guest 6801328]

It's too bad this thread went down the gutter.

If anybody wants to start a new thread talking about ideas for the Warden, sans the sophomoric crap, count me in.

 

[TrippyHippy]

I am assuming that the on record Mearls on Warlords (ca 2015) is something like "ZZZZzzzzzzzz....".

 

[Bawylie]

I've taken a stab at it. Which I'll post here for now. They've been saying "You can get what you want by some combo of fighter/bard," so I've gone and done something like that. This warlord is not a leader of men or whatever, he's more a lord of war, than anything else.

Since he's generally not a spell caster, inspiration dice play a somewhat larger role. Since he's not a fighter, he doesn't get all the attacks, armor proficiencies, or hp.

For subclasses, he has access to Battlemaster and Hunter, as well as a Field Medic subclass that (gasp) uses spells (in a warlocky manner).

Please take a moment to look through and if this warrants more discussion, lmk.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I would love to see a class that is one part fighter, one part bard, no spell casting. Inspiration dice, and Superiority dice some how mixed and matched as one set of increasing dice that start off as daily, then come back on short rest, then later come back as an action... give them a healing touch based manuvier "Bind wounds' and an inspire temp hp "commanding words' could be a great mix...

here lets brain storm that

level
1 3d4 dice (come back after long rest)
2
3 subclass
4 3d6 (come back on short rest) "ability or feat"
5
6 subclass ability
7 4d6
8 "ability or feat"
9 4d8
10
11 "ability or feat"
12 5d8 (when at 0 you can spend an action to regain 1)
13 sub class ability
14 "ability or feat"
15 5d10
16
17
18 sub class ability "ability or feat"
19 6d12 (when at half or less can spend an action to regain 1)
20

give 2 maneuver (and inspire per bard) plus 1 per 3 levels, and each subclass gives another one.

so you start with 3, and have 10 by 20th level

base manuvers off of battlemaster, bard, and 4e warlord powers...

 

[Bawylie]

Take a look at what I just posted and lmk what you think.

 

[Minigiant]

Take a look at what I just posted and lmk what you think.

My thoughts.

HD and Proficiency: Almost exactly how my nonmagical fighter/bard "warlord" looks. Only difference is gave them Con and Int saves.

Combat Inspiration & Triage: Basically the bard stuff renamed. Just how I'd do it. I use "Combat Medic" over Triage.

Fighting style: I prefer pushing it back to level 2 like the ranger and paladin. And only 4 styles. Don't like a 2nd one either. Make it too fighterish to me.

Foreward Observer: Like it. Swap positions with fighting style though.

Vanguard: Love it.

Warlord Archetype: I'd prefer unique archetypes. Or at least the names of the 4th ones.

• Resourceful Warlord as the maneuver one
• Insightful Warlord as the "hunter" one.
• Inspiring Warlord as the caster one
• Bravura Warlord as the barbaric one with an "Incite Rage"
• Tactical Warlord as the one with the second fighting style and some sort of Upgraded Vanguard

Good job,

 

[Bawylie]

Thanks. I put fighting styles more prominently bc of they way they interact with vanguard. But all of this is a 1st pass, so, make of it what you will.

Likewise on names of stuff - could definitely rewrite any of it.