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D&D 5E ForgedAnvil D&D 5E Character Generator


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Grakarg

Explorer
Hmmm, maybe we'll be lucky enough to see someone create a NEW spreadsheet called... ReForged Anvil. A totally different item, with new layout etc, requiring a new Cease and Desist from WoTC. Which then results in a new product call the Re-reforged Anvil. And the Re-re-reforged anvil. Delaying tactic until Wotc leaves you alone.
 

GravGunner

Villager
Technically, I don't think there would be anything in the way of making a personal sheet for yourself, it is mostly the distribution that they seem to be worried about. (building upon something existing is ...eh? you are not distributing)
 

ShadowO

First Post
At this point, would it be permissible to continue to develop the sheet personally? Never feeling the need to bother with the headache before, since the announcement I've begun to fix a few bugs and add the rest of the XGtE content to the sheet so that my players can continue to use it with the campaign they are currently starting. I'm not trying to distribute this, but I don't want to step on any toes either.

How would one begin doing this? I would like to at least add the parts of the characters I'm running. I work in a psuedo programming position (small scripts), so I can likely figure out the structure needed - just not sure where to start with this.
 

Fin Kename

First Post
How would one begin doing this? I would like to at least add the parts of the characters I'm running. I work in a psuedo programming position (small scripts), so I can likely figure out the structure needed - just not sure where to start with this.

I guess that should have been my question, "Is ForgedAnvil ok with me removing the protection on the sheets and adding stuff from XGtE etc?" I know he has been very guarded with access (and rightly so) before all of this.
 

cbwjm

Hero
This sheet was a great resource, you did t even have to buy the books to use it which might be why the C&D came along. I'm not surprised it did, I'm mostly surprised at how long it took WotC.
Oh man. I've been using Orc Pub2 for awhile now and it's a great resource, but they got taken down too a few months ago. I didn't realize this excel sheet was a good resource too. How do people make characters these days? Are we back to calculating everything by hand now?
It's not like it's difficult to calculate anything in 5e. Ability score + proficiency bonus, if proficient. This is one of the easiest to work out editions since 2e.
 

Dannyboy7702

First Post
I hear people say "Well ForgedAnvil's sheet just gave you all the information that WotC worked hard and spent money to develop! They need to be able to sell the product!" I already own the books. Everyone I know who uses the sheet also owns the books. You know why? It's hard to pick your character out from a drop down list if you don't already know what they are. You don't know classes, races, backgrounds, feats, spells, items, and archetypes right out the gate, and looking through them using just the character sheet is cumbersome. It's not designed to replace the books, it's designed to make your sheet look professional and clean after you've made all those decisions, usually after picking them out using the books. Make no mistake, The very existence of this sheet has helped promote and sell 5e. And they just went and killed not only this valuable tool, but every bit of goodwill surrounding it.

This sheet was a great resource, you did t even have to buy the books to use it which might be why the C&D came along. I'm not surprised it did, I'm mostly surprised at how long it took WotC.It's not like it's difficult to calculate anything in 5e. Ability score + proficiency bonus, if proficient. This is one of the easiest to work out editions since 2e.

As the quote above states... You will still need the books to read about the individual races, classes, backgrounds and a host of other information, as you will need refer to the books to know what you are selecting to assist you in creating the character you want. It doesn't matter if 5th edition is the easiest to use/ work out since 2nd edition, this CS offered the community a clean looking character sheet AND it provided additional information that the WotC CS doesn't offer. Those that used the CS really enjoyed it. I understand WotC wanting to protect their material and not wanting people profiting off of it, but Forge offered it up free of charge. Personally, I don't care for the CS that WotC created. This is just my $.02.
 

cbwjm

Hero
As the quote above states... You will still need the books to read about the individual races, classes, backgrounds and a host of other information, as you will need refer to the books to know what you are selecting to assist you in creating the character you want. It doesn't matter if 5th edition is the easiest to use/ work out since 2nd edition, this CS offered the community a clean looking character sheet AND it provided additional information that the WotC CS doesn't offer. Those that used the CS really enjoyed it. I understand WotC wanting to protect their material and not wanting people profiting off of it, but Forge offered it up free of charge. Personally, I don't care for the CS that WotC created. This is just my $.02.
Except you really don't need the books. The basic rules and this sheet really does give you all you need. I've had players that didn't own the books use this sheet to figure everything out.
 

AnotherCrappyDM

First Post
Except you really don't need the books. The basic rules and this sheet really does give you all you need. I've had players that didn't own the books use this sheet to figure everything out.

But I bet they torrented a pdf version of the books so WOTC still isn't making an extra sale. People are going to buy or not buy the books irregardless of 3rd party tools.
 

cbwjm

Hero
But I bet they torrented a pdf version of the books so WOTC still isn't making an extra sale. People are going to buy or not buy the books irregardless of 3rd party tools.
I know 1 who did, others did not and even if they download or buy the PHB to better understand classes, they were getting everything else as well. Certainly no one cared to get SCAG but this builder gave them all of the options that were in it. Before the c&d they would have also gained all of the subclasses and spells in Xanathar's. As much as it sucks to lose this excellent resource, I agree with WotC's decision.
 

AnotherCrappyDM

First Post
I know 1 who did, others did not and even if they download or buy the PHB to better understand classes, they were getting everything else as well. Certainly no one cared to get SCAG but this builder gave them all of the options that were in it. Before the c&d they would have also gained all of the subclasses and spells in Xanathar's. As much as it sucks to lose this excellent resource, I agree with WotC's decision.

I'm fine with WOTC's decision. It's their product and they can manage it the way they'd like. What I'm infering is that people are going to do right or do wrong regardless of the rules so punishing the 95% that do the right thing because of the 5% that are never going to follow the rules just kinda sucks.
 

ShadowO

First Post
I am not going to step on Forge's toes. He has mentioned to me that he would like to finish updating the CS with the material from XGtE and get it out to everyone. But, not sure how he can distribute it to the masses.

Sending to someone to seed out as a torrent would be an effective way, and ensure it doesn't get removed from another site. At this point FA could just share the password to anyone and it's essentially opened up to others for crowd sourcing new additions - and he can wipe his hands of any legality because the "Internet" did it, not him.

I've seen many tools like this just shared out from google drive docs even. There is always the option to just upload it to someplace like mega fileshare too.
 

SirHardHead

First Post
Awww man, if there was a finished XGtE version I hope there is a way to get it out to people. But distribution is hard as any site that links to any form of distribution would be in WoTCs sights. I'm just trying to find a version of 2.27 as I missed out on it before it got pulled.
 

epithet

Explorer
I am not going to step on Forge's toes. He has mentioned to me that he would like to finish updating the CS with the material from XGtE and get it out to everyone. But, not sure how he can distribute it to the masses.

Probably the easiest way would be to create a new gmail account and serve it up off of Google Drive. That has the advantage of offering a place where the most recent, up-to-date version can be found.
 

Dannyboy7702

First Post
Awww man, if there was a finished XGtE version I hope there is a way to get it out to people. But distribution is hard as any site that links to any form of distribution would be in WoTCs sights. I'm just trying to find a version of 2.27 as I missed out on it before it got pulled.

Send me a pm with your email address.
 


bschrempp

Villager
Hi folks! We've received a DMCA takedown demand for this download from WotC's lawyers. I've already let ForgedAnvil know. I'll be dealing with it when I get back to work on Monday. Just keeping you all in the loop.

Can you move this to a paid location and work out a license with WOTC? I would pay $20 to $40 to buy this. I think I would even pay $10 a year to have this and updates for the year, a subscription type thing.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Can you move this to a paid location and work out a license with WOTC? I would pay $20 to $40 to buy this. I think I would even pay $10 a year to have this and updates for the year, a subscription type thing.

It’s not mine. You’d have to ask ForgedAnvil.
 



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