Forgotten Realms - What happened to Tilverton in DR 1372?

dreaded_beast said:
I fear the fate of the FR has just gotten worse. :(

I remain miffed that there is such a difference between Troy Denning's take on Shadow Weave Magic, and the Shadow Weave Magic we see in the rulebooks. If we actually used the rulebooks' version in the stories, they would have ended quite differently.

Wasn't FR in a fairly stable time period between the Time of Shadows and the release of the FRCS?

"Time of Shadows"? Do you mean Time of Troubles, or is there a Time of Shadows of which I remain unaware?
 
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"Time of Shadows"? Do you mean Time of Troubles, or is there a Time of Shadows of which I remain unaware?[/QUOTE]

Doh. Yes, I mean Time of Troubles.

How did Troy Denning's version of Shadow Weave magic and the stories differ?
 

dreaded_beast said:
How did Troy Denning's version of Shadow Weave magic and the stories differ?

Denning wrote the stories, but his take on it differed from the rulebooks.

Denning's version of Shadow Weave Magic has it that the Weave and the Shadow Weave were one, intact together, until Karsus's attempt on godhood split it into two, and that the Karse Stone was the last source of whole magic. He also had it that anytime raw Weave energy hit the Shadow Weave, it violently warped reality.

According to the rulebooks, Shar created the Shadow Weave very shortly after Mystryl came into existence, and it's been a closely guarded secret since then. There never was any "whole" magic. Likewise, Shadow Weave Magic and Weave Magic do not warp reality when they interact.
 
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dreaded_beast said:
Great summary Neo!

I fear the fate of the FR has just gotten worse. :(

Don't fear for the realms. They have survived the fall of Mystryl (which resulted in the fall - in the literal sense - of all netherese sky cities but one), the time of troubles, incursion of several extradimensional beings, the recent shade and phaerimm problem (and the ongoing severe weather problems), Lolth's Silence, the Dawn Cataclysm, the Creator Races, you name it. The currently coming problems (the greatest Rage of Dragons ever, and the rise of the Demonfey) won't succeed in destroying the realms. They will survive to the end of time when the Big Serpent emerges to eat the sun.
 

This is one of the main reasons that I don't use published campaign settings anymore. When I used to run a FR campaign, it was based in Tilverton. It was a perfect location and they went and blew it up.... :confused:
 


Yeah, this seemed like a bad idea to me.

I questioned when they blew up Zhentil Keep, as I kind of liked having the blatantly evil city rather than just another big dungeon, but at least you had the dungeon, and still had the little portion of the city that remained intact on the south side of the river.

But with Tilverton, it's even worse. Cool frontier town, utterly obliterated, not even with ruins (am I wrong?) Instead of adding adventure opportunities, it just erased them. That's not a good thing for a campaign world.
 

They needed the room to put in the expressway exit to Eberron. Parking lots for all those lightning stations and Denny's take a lot of room.
 

I just started a FR campaign in Tilverton, but since I have a lot of the old 1st/2nd Ed campaign material, decided to set the campaign start date a few years back than the one recommended in the FR campaign setting. I thought it would be a little bit more fun that way, since I already had a timeline of future events to turn to.

Although I don't plan to keep the campaign in Tilverton, unless the PCs want to stick around longer than they have to, the first couple of adventures are taking place around that area. Imagine my surprise when I discover that it had gone and gotten blown up in 3rd Edition.
 

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