Free Feat Question

[Serpentes]

Ok now - my DM won't allow in his D&D 3.5/FR setting anything I suggest without some good support from the books (for this he uses 3.5 as long as those are not in opposition to FR).
I've used Forgotten Realms Character Generator
character generator to see if there are no mistakes in my character sheet. According to this generator it seems that my wood elf druid of Rillifane Rallathil gains Point Blank Shot feat as: "free for elf domain".
Could someone tell me where did this feat come from (except for domain druid option I obviously didn't choose) and in which book is it explained?
Making my DM allow this would really help with my character progression.

 

[FreeXenon]

I currently play 4E and am not in a position to help you with your question, but what may help others to address your question is to post your character here so people can see it.

Explaining what "some good support from the books" means may also help too, as well as explaining what "not in opposition to FR" means might help people too.

As far as I am aware there is very little if anything in the rules that could really "conflict" with FR. FR is a campaign setting and not a rules set per se, albeit there are some sub races and feats etc that are specifically found in FR, that are generally not found else where. As long as you avoid the 3.5 Eberron Books I think you should be golden.

Good luck!

 

[Stormonu]

Are you asking where Point Blank Shot came from (Players Handbook in this case) or are you asking about the Elf domain (not sure what book that's from)?

 

[Serpentes]

I am asking why do I get it?
My character is not a Cleric to get it from domain and from what I know druid can get a domain only by giving up their wildshape (which I'm not willing to do).
PBS is indeed the Granted Power of Elf Domain but I can't find any justification for a druid to have this granted power.

"some good support from the books" - is it explained in some rulebook so I can justify it to DM this way.

"not in opposition to FR" - for example Core 3.5 states that druids need not have patron deity, FR druids need to have one. Therefore if I overlooked somewhere in FR rulebooks that druid gets granted powers my DM will allow it (PHB states Druids don't get those).

As for my character:
[sblock]Mal Male Wood Elf Druid 5 / Ranger 1
Chaotic Neutral
Origin: The_Wealdath

Strength 13(+1)
Dexterity 15(+2)
Constitution 10(+0)
Intelligence 12(+1)
Wisdom 16(+3)
Charisma 11(+0)

Size: Medium
Height: 5' 4"
Weight: 110 lb
Skin: Light
Eyes: Green
Hair: Black Straight; Beardless
Sect: Rillifane_Rallathil

Total Hit Points: 35
Speed: 30 feet
Armor Class: 15 = 10 +4 [armor] + 2 [dexterity]

• Touch AC: 12
  Flat-footed: 14

Initiative modifier: + 2 = + 2 [dexterity]
Fortitude save: + 6 = 6 [base]
Reflex save: + 5 = 3 [base] + 2 [dexterity]
Will save: + 7 = 4 [base] + 3 [wisdom]
Attack (handheld): + 5 = 4 [base] + 1 [strength]
Attack (missile): + 6 = 4 [base] + 2 [dexterity]
Grapple check: + 5 = 4 [base] + 1 [strength]
Light load: 50 lb. or less
Medium load: 51-100 lb.
Heavy load: 101-150 lb.
Lift over head: 150 lb.
Lift off ground: 300 lb.
Push or drag: 750 lb.

Languages: Chondathan Common Elven Draconic Druidic
Dagger [1d4, crit 19-20/x2, range inc 10 ft., 1 lb., light, piercing]
+1 Quarterstaff [1d6+1/1d6+1, crit x2, 4 lb., two-handed, bludgeoning]
Longbow [1d8, crit x3, range inc. 100 ft, 3 lb, piercing]
+1 Leafweave Studded Leather [light; + 4 AC; max dex + 6; check penalty 0; 20 lb.] (allowed by DM - I paid additional 25 gp for "bone rivets").

Feats:

• Dodge
• Point Blank Shot
• Point Blank Shot [free for elf domain]
• Track[free to rangers]
• Craft Magic Arms and Armor
  

Skills
Appraise Int 1 = +1
Balance Dex* 2 = +2
Bluff Cha 0 = +0
Climb Str* 1 = +1
Concentration Con 4 = +0 + 4
Craft_1 Int 1 = +1
Diplomacy Cha 0 = +0
Disguise Cha 0 = +0
Escape Artist Dex* 2 = +2
Forgery Int 1 = +1
Gather Information Cha 0 = +0 + 0
Handle Animal Cha 4 = +0 + 4
Heal Wis 9 = +3 + 6
Hide Dex* 2 = +2
Intimidate Cha 0 = +0
Jump Str* 1 = +1
Knowledge (nature) Int 9 = +1 + 4 +2 [druid] +2 [survival]
Listen Wis 9 = +3 + 4 +2 [elf]
Move Silently Dex* 2 = +2
Ride Dex 2 = +2
Search Int 3 = +1 +2 [elf]
Sense Motive Wis 3 = +3
Spellcraft Int 6 = +1 + 5
Spot Wis 9 = +3 + 4 +2 [elf]
Survival Wis 11 = +3 + 6 +2 [druid]
Swim Str** 1 = +1
Tumble Dex* 4 = +2 + 2
Use Rope Dex 2 = +2


Zero-level Druid spells: 5 per day
First-level Druid spells: 4 (3 + 1) per day
Second-level Druid spells: 3 (2 + 1) per day
Third-level Druid spells: 2 (1 + 1) per day



Wood (Copper) Elf:

• +2 dexterity / +2 strength / -2 constitution / -2 intelligence (already included)
• Immune to magical sleep
• +2 racial bonus to saves vs. enchantments
• Low-light vision
• Proficient with longsword, rapier, longbow & shortbow
• +2 racial bonus on listen, search, and spot checks
• Notice secret doors; automatic search check if in five feet

Druid

• Spontaneous Casting (summon nature's ally)
• Animal Companion
• + 2 on Knowledge (nature) and Survival (already included)
• Wild Empathy
• Woodland Stride (level 2)
• Trackless Step (level 3)
• Resist Nature's Lure (level 4)
• Wild Shape (level 5)
• Venom Immunity (level 9)
• A Thousand Faces (level 13)
• Timeless Body (level 15)
• High wisdom gains bonus spells daily

Ranger

• Favored enemies
• Track as bonus feat (already included)
• Combat Style
• Endurance
• Wild empathy (roll level + charisma bonus)
• Endurance (level 3)
• Animal Companion (level 4)
• Woodland Stride (level 7)
• Swift Tracker (level 8)
• Evasion (level 9)
• Camouflage (level 13)
• Hide in Plain Sight (level 17)
• High wisdom gains bonus spells daily

Favored Enemies:

• Dragons + 2

This ranger chose the archery track.

Class HP rolled
Level 1: Druid 8
Level 2: Druid 6
Level 3: Druid 4
Level 4: Druid 6 + 1 to intelligence
Level 5: Druid 6
Level 6: Ranger 5

Animal Companion: Wolf

• Medium-Size Animal
• Hit dice 4d8+8 (26 hit points)
• Initiative +3 (Dex)
• Speed 50 feet
• AC: 17 ( +3 Dex +4 natural)
• Attacks: Bite +6 melee (Weapon Finesse);
• Damage 1d6+3 (bite);
• Special Qualities: Scent
• Saves: Fort +6; Ref +7; Will +2
• Abilities: Str 14, Dex 16, Con 15, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 6
• Skills: Hide +4; Listen +6; Move Silently +5; Spot +4; Survival +1;
• The animal is entitled to distribute an additional 2 skill points.
• Feats: Weapon Finesse (Bite)
• Link, share spells
• Evasion
• Bonus tricks: 2

[/sblock]

 

[Empirate]

I wouldn't trust in the character generator too much. You are, in fact, not entitled to any domains as a straight Druid, as you have pointed out. So you don't get PBS either. Try building your character not with an online generator (which can be flawed), but using the old pencil-and-paper method.

 

[RUMBLETiGER]

I personally haven't had reason to trust online character generators either, for the occasional bugs as you've noticed.

I second @Empirate 's comment, the old fashioned way is the most reliable, in my opinion.

I have no idea how you'd get the Elf domain from what you've described.

You have 5 feats listed. Track comes from the Ranger class, leaving 4. Point Blank Shot is mentioned twice, so your only 3 feats are Dodge, Point Blank Shot and Craft Magic Arms and Armor. Ignore the second PBS and it seems you're golden as far as feats go.

 

[kitcik]

If you want online, HeroForge is better. Not perfect, but better.

 

[Serpentes]

I was mostly just checking if I counted everything right - I have everything on paper exactly as you guys say.
Just making sure there is no such thing.
It's kinda required of me to know as much as I can - other players appointed me to question DM with rules and allowed me to play druid to increase my chances to survive.

 

[was]

Book: Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting
Domain: Elf (includes the feat)
Page: 62

Origin of Feat: PHB

 

[Serpentes]

Surprisingly I've found it myself today.
It's a house rule mentioned in Unearthed Arcana (page 68).

Guess we can close the thread. Thanks for your help everyone.