Full Flurry of Blows with both hands on one Temple Sword?

[RonYon]

No response when I posted this here:Pathfinder SRD Messageboards :: View topic - Full Flurry of Blows with both hands on one Temple Sword?
So I thought I might try here. I tried searching, but apparently I dont have the privileges.So anyway...

A Monk "may make one additional attack using any combination of unarmed strikes or attacks with a special monk weapon (kama, nunchaku, quarterstaff, sai, shuriken, and siangham) as if using the Two-Weapon Fighting feat"
Since the two weapon fighting feat requires,well,two hands,If one is using a one handed weapon in two hands, can one still make multiple attacks with it?

I ask because I want to use Temple Sword, in two hands, and make all of my flurry attacks with it.
If this is possible, I might even up-size the sword and eat the -2 penalty, just to get 2d6 instead of 1d8.
So, will any of this work, or will I have to settle for one Temple Sword attack, with balance being something else(unarmed kicks, head-butt, siangham thrown via Throw Anything...)?

 

[Dandu]

Can you Flurry while wielding a quarterstaff in two hands, as opposed to using it as a two handed weapon?

I might be a bit rusty, but I suspect you'll have to settle.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

Pretty sure you can, since flurry isn't realy like TWF at all and Paizo never should have made that comparison. Flurry says you do str damage on all attacks no matter what, for instance. That means that while you can two-hand the sword, it won't give you more str to damage, just make it harder to disarm. I DO think two handing it would still give you the higher Power Attack benefit, though.

 

[pawsplay]

With a quarterstaff, you can use it two-handed, but get only your normal Str bonus to damage. I think StreamOfSky's observation about Power Attack is correct, though.

 

[Anguish]

The point of declaring something a monk weapon is to state that it's compatible with FoB. The reference to TWF is to give an idea how the mechanism works beyond what's stated in the FoB description. Since you're allowed to make an extra attack, you're allowed to make an extra attack. A monk can make a FoB using a single fist if he or she decides to. Point is that there aren't necessarily two weapons involved despite the reference to TWF.

Yes, this is a powerful choice because you can get 1.5x Str to damage with the temple sword. On the other hand you don't get your unarmed strike damage progression because you're using a weapon. No biggie.

 

[Shisumo]

Yes, this is a powerful choice because you can get 1.5x Str to damage with the temple sword.

Nope. Flurry of blows specifically disallows getting bonus damage for using a weapon in two hands. You do get the Power Attack bonus, but not the Strength bonus.

 

[RonYon]

Well the SRD does say

A monk applies his full Strength bonus to his damage rolls for all successful attacks made with flurry of blows, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand or with a weapon wielded in both hands.

This doesnt bother me-I am ok with just adding the potential for another 4 points to my weapon damage, by upsizing it from 1 handed to two handed.
What matters most to me is how many attacks I could get with this, since unlike a quarterstaff, a temple sword isnt a double weapon.
StreamOfTheSky and Anguish seem to agree that one could flurry with a two handed weapon,Dandu is in doubt,does anyone else have a take on this?

 

[Shisumo]

Well the SRD does say

Right - you get your full Strength bonus, but not the 1.5x Strength multiplier, even if wielding it in two hands.

You can absolutely flurry with a single two-handed weapon.

 

[Walking Dad]

Can you also flurry with just one brass knuckle? I want to gain an enhancement bonus for all to hit without paying an ridicilous amount of gold and using up the neck slot.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

Can you also flurry with just one brass knuckle? I want to gain an enhancement bonus for all to hit without paying an ridicilous amount of gold and using up the neck slot.

Yes. Your unarmed strike is the same, no matter what you use to attack for it. Paizo could have just done the right thing (TM) and made amulet of mighty fists affect only one natural weapon and cost the same as weapon enhancements, but the company's made of fail, so they left it as it was in 3E: An outrageously overpriced piece of garbage for a monk, and an incredibly desirable item for a Thri-Kreen.

Just get a single enhanced brass knuckle, describe your attacks however you please, and see if the DM actually gets upset. If he raises an issue about it, repeat after me: "Ok. Instead of kneeing him in the junk, I punch him in the junk with my right hand AND IT HAS THE EXACT SAME EFFECT."