Game Day mini = Spined Devil
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If 1/2 level bonus is in attack rolls, then I don't see why BAB needs to advance at the same rate. Fighters may well get +1 BAB at first level and every two after if that is the case. Wizards and the like wouldn't have a BAB at all.takasi said:
EDIT: Removed stupidity
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frankthedm
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They took some effort to learn, but they were not incomprehensible. I felt the distinctions were vital to Arial combat through every edition. Going strait up is something almost no winged flier should be capable of.
They are there to prevent things that should be flopping around through the air from performing pin point attacks on the parties rear ranks.Tazawa said:
Tazawa
Adventurer
Saves, Attack, and Damage Bonuses
Saves could be 10 + level + ability modifier (at least for immortals, other classes could have bad saves equal to 10 + 1/2 level + ability modifier).
Attack bonuses are harder to figure out. The fact that the melee and ranged attacks are the same even though the Str and Dex modifiers are different by 2, suggests that the fact that they're both +9 is either a typo (not likely) or that ability modifiers aren't included in the calculation. Maybe skirmishers get a flat 1 1/2 level bonus as their attack bonus? Sure would make it easy to create a skirmisher on the fly.
The damage bonuses look like they're not modified by level. The devil gets the normal full +4 for a 19 Str for its claws and 1/2 Str (+2) for its spines.
Saves could be 10 + level + ability modifier (at least for immortals, other classes could have bad saves equal to 10 + 1/2 level + ability modifier).
Attack bonuses are harder to figure out. The fact that the melee and ranged attacks are the same even though the Str and Dex modifiers are different by 2, suggests that the fact that they're both +9 is either a typo (not likely) or that ability modifiers aren't included in the calculation. Maybe skirmishers get a flat 1 1/2 level bonus as their attack bonus? Sure would make it easy to create a skirmisher on the fly.
The damage bonuses look like they're not modified by level. The devil gets the normal full +4 for a 19 Str for its claws and 1/2 Str (+2) for its spines.
Tazawa
Adventurer
frankthedm said:
You're a better man than I. I've been DMing for over 25 years and I still haven't got the hang of them.
I would like to see flying creatures be more or less capable of doing what a flying creature with Good manoeuvrability can do now.
If they need to be able to fly straight up, they can have a special ability in their description that says they can.
If they're lousy fliers, they should either have slower fly speeds than land speeds or have some form of hindered movement while flying, like a zombie's single-action only drawback.
jodyjohnson
Adventurer
I think the there's another bonus involved based on role.
Skirmishers are -1 melee, +1 ranged
Brutes may be +1 melee, -1 ranged
Leaders/Bosses may be 0/0 but grant bonuses to followers
Dragon type solo creatures may get +x/+x
In this example:
Level+Str-1=+9 melee
Level+Dex+1=+9 ranged
Level 30 mob vs. Level 30 character defense
Level+Str+/-1+d20 vs. 10+level or armor+Stat
Skirmishers are -1 melee, +1 ranged
Brutes may be +1 melee, -1 ranged
Leaders/Bosses may be 0/0 but grant bonuses to followers
Dragon type solo creatures may get +x/+x
In this example:
Level+Str-1=+9 melee
Level+Dex+1=+9 ranged
Level 30 mob vs. Level 30 character defense
Level+Str+/-1+d20 vs. 10+level or armor+Stat
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