GAME OF THRONES #7:-You Win or You Die ACT 7 Chapter 1-2011

[LightPhoenix]

The redhead was the prostitute from Winterfell Theon was obsessed with... I forget her name though. How apt. Littlefinger explicitly calls it out though, when he's admonishing her ("Is that how you do it in the North?")

Very minor book spoiler:

Spoiler

In the books she stayed in Winterfell.

As for the necessity of the scene, and others expository things...

Littlefinger seems to be set up as the vehicle for exposition in the series. More specifically, he seems to pick up a lot of the slack from scenes left out or in internal monologues or description. Case in point: in the book, the Hound's back story comes from the Hound*, not from Littlefinger.

That said, I found the scene completely extraneous and, perhaps more damning, lessening the shock of Littlefinger's betrayal. It didn't need to be in the episode at all.

Otherwise a solid episode overall. One point that should have been made in the episode is that Arya and Sansa are still in King's Landing.

* Though this scene should have been in the show; it's a pretty important scene for establishing future story lines.

 

[Kzach]

That said, I found the scene completely extraneous and, perhaps more damning, lessening the shock of Littlefinger's betrayal. It didn't need to be in the episode at all.

Although I'm betraying my sense of duty to preserve and promote any naked scenes with two women pleasing each other, I am forced to agree that the show would've been better served by any of a dozen other possible scenes.

 

[jonesy]

Very minor book spoiler: In the books she stayed in Winterfell.

That's not a book spoiler. She hasn't appeared in the books. Ros is a character specifically created for the show.

That and the amount of time that she has been on screen are the reasons why I think she must be a book spoiler for things that have not yet happened.

As such:

Spoiler

Martin needs a way to connect all threads heading towards Meereen. One solution is to have a character who knows what is going on between those threads. Ros knows Theon, Ros knows Littlefinger, Ros will know Tyrion through Shae, Ros would know of Arya and Jon..

 

[Remus Lupin]

Actually, Ros knows Tyrion directly in the TV show, as it was his very generous tip to her while he was at Winterfell that financed her trip to King's Landing. She also knows Jon directly, since he failed to lose his virginity to her.

 

[Krug]

Good ep, though the scene with Littlefinger and Ros seemed to go on forever. I guess they put it in to give the episode a kind of self-contained quality, though I don't think anyone watching it without the previous eps would know what the heck was going on.

Anyway episode 8 preview - The Pointy End:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q653MMhri3A]YouTube - ‪Game of Thrones Episode 8 Preview - The Pointy End‬‏[/ame]

 

[LightPhoenix]

That's not a book spoiler. She hasn't appeared in the books. Ros is a character specifically created for the show.

My bad; I didn't realize. She looks a lot like the prostitute from Winterfell, so I assumed it was her, especially with the line about the North.

 

[jonesy]

Anyway episode 8 preview - The Pointy End:
YouTube - Game of Thrones Episode 8 Preview - The Pointy End

Winter is about to hit the fan.

 

[Remus Lupin]

My bad; I didn't realize. She looks a lot like the prostitute from Winterfell, so I assumed it was her, especially with the line about the North.

Oh, the character IS the prostitute from Winterfell (and she must have taken the Redeye from Whiteharbor to get to King's Landing so quickly!), but the prostitute from Winterfell isn't a character in the novels.

 

[Joker]

Oh man, those poor guardsmen from House Stark aren't getting any breaks. Their kill to death ratio is terrible. Bunch of redshirts.

I love Ned's expression at the end. He was about to lay down the law when Little Finger betrayed him and he had this look on his face like "Oh you bitch".

 

[apoptosis]

While I thought Littlefinger's exposition went on a bit long, i did not find the sex scene as gratuitous but a pretty well done metaphor (am gay so two women together is not very titillating to me)

He tells the whores that their client knows that they are a whore and are paying for them; it is their job is to make their client forget about that. That they become whatever their client wants and in doing so the client forgets that they are with a whore.

That is what Littlefinger is. He knows that no one trusts him but he still manages to make people forget that and to (usually their detriment and his benefit) trust him.