Gaming W/Jemal: Legends (3.5e d&D) *Recruitment Closed*

[Myth and Legend]

By no means am i saying the DM should be out for the player's blood. Also, i don't know the full extent of Rho's power. All i'm saying is that i'd design NPCs that provide a challenge but do not slaughter the PCs when played correctly. Honestly, it's not a matter of feats skills or spells - very basic tactics (that every 20 level char should know are) 1: Don't spread your damage unless it's AOE. 2: Always target the mages.

Now they probably don't know what class Sila is, that she is immune to a metric ton of stuff being an elemental savant, but they can see (no Spellcraft required) that she is flinging mighty spells around while wearing a white robe and hodling no weapon whatsoever.

Logic would dictate that some persistent bastard try and take her out with melee (or magic if he deems himself capable). Honestly, Rho should have tried to full round her alongside the feral.

Also, whatever happened with that Greater Dispel targetted at Rho and his prescious buffs? Oh, and you're right about waiting. I guess i got lucky and saw the critical hit, so now can use Sila for something else.

 

[Shayuri]

For what it's worth, I concur with Jemal's assessment of that anti-grapple feat. Only light weapons are possible to use -at all- in a grapple, and even then only at a -4 penalty and after a successful grapple check. This feat removes those limitations, but would not remove the limitation on what kind of weapon is possible to use.

In short, if you want to rip stuff up in a grapple, get a short sword or something.

 

[Myth and Legend]

To clarify, i don't want to bring DM wrath on Silivrenniel's head, i'm just trying to be impartial and also learning the hows and whys of DMing Fun before everything else is the motto right? By the way i should probably look in to better defensive magic..

On the side note, i was thinking of how broken Freedom of Movement is - i mean come on! A fourth level spell neutralizing a perfectly valid form of attack that has a whole PRC built around it (Reaping Mauler)? I'm particularly vexed because if Monkey should ever resume his games, one of my characters there will be a grappler... Also, if one can be completely immune to grapples, why even have this bloody useless thing? 20d6? HA! A Polar Ray deals more damage than that! And it's a level 8! Granted it's not pure damage, but hey - it's not an Epic spell either

 

[ethandrew]

Interpretation accepted. I looked at is as if the character was such a master at his weapon that he didn't need the requisite space to get attacks in, but I always acquiesce to the DM's decision and I will in this regard. You can ignore that phantom 1,162 damage, Jemal.

 

[Salthorae]

Myth - it looks like on your Ranged touch attack roll that you failed to take into account your BAB of +20 from Oroz's other bonus and your +1 from Chevik's Bless

You took Oroz's -20 to AC for a +20 attack + 5 dex + 1 Competence from Ioun Stone, but you're missing +20 BAB + 1 Morale from Bless.

Your total attack roll should be +47 if you take the full hit to AC, so your roll should be a total of 49 Touch Attack.

At least that is how I understand the buffs that Oroz gave us...

Also Oroz's first bonus gives everyone +2 to damage (I think on melee attacks) don't forget about that Adamas & Arineil!

 

[ethandrew]

I did indeed forget about that. Good catch!

Jemal - that'd be 1,204 damage that you can now ignore.

 

[Shayuri]

Oh hell, I forgot about Oroz's buffs...Sigil's touch attacks are actually better than I've been rolling. Hee. Okay then.

Can we get official confirmation on exactly what that buff does so I can make a note on my sheet under temporary buffs?

 

[Salthorae]

These are the effects from Oroz's buffs

Effects on the Party:
Inspire Legion: All party members Base Attack Bonus becomes 20. Everyone gains a +2 on damage rolls.

Inspire Recklessness: All party memebers can take a -x Penalty to AC to gain +x bonus to attack. x can be any number up to your BAB (for all party members this will be 20)

 

[Myth and Legend]

Salthorae thanks for catching that oversight. I rolled a 2 so i hoped it would still hit. Now i know it will

 

[Jemal]

A few notes.
Primarily is about the Warchanter's Inspire Recklessness ability (This is the ability Oroz activated that lets you guys get +20 attack for -20 AC).
I just re-read it to be sure..
Inspire recklessness allows you to take a penalty to your AC(No greater than your BAB) to receive a corresponding MORALE bonus to MELEE Attack rolls.
It does not stack with bless, and does not apply to ranged attacks.

If you are using a ranged attack, you benefit from having 20 bab, and +1 morale bonus to attack from bless.
If you are using a melee attack, you get the 20 bab and either +1 morale bonus to attacks from bless, OR +1 morale bonus to attacks per -1 AC penalty(Max 20) From Recklessness.

I also just noticed that Oroz's Inspire Legion (The thing that gives all of you a BAB of 20) ALSO grants a +2 competence bonus to damage rolls, so start taking that into account as of now. (Cept raven. no buff 4 u.)


Ethandrew - If I make a hard ruling on something, I'll say so.. until then, I like to know WHY people disagree with me, so if you have further things to say on the weapon supremacy mattter, feel free. I may be bullishly stubborn, but I have changed my mind before... once or twice..

Jemal - that'd be 1,204 damage that you can now ignore.

lol. That'd kill any of the NPC's here twice over (Assuming they all hit).

[On the side note, i was thinking of how broken Freedom of Movement is - i mean come on! A fourth level spell neutralizing a perfectly valid form of attack that has a whole PRC built around it (Reaping Mauler)? I'm particularly vexed because if Monkey should ever resume his games, one of my characters there will be a grappler... Also, if one can be completely immune to grapples, why even have this bloody useless thing? 20d6? HA! A Polar Ray deals more damage than that! And it's a level 8! Granted it's not pure damage, but hey - it's not an Epic spell either

Yes, freedom of movement is one of the MANY broken spells available in D&D, and is usually on my list of nerfs, but I decided not to this time around.
Also, just for the record, the spell you link to in your post IS polar ray.. I presume you mislinked, otherwise the later half of your post makes no sense to me... What spell were you supposed to be comparing polar ray to?

Also, whatever happened with that Greater Dispel targetted at Rho and his prescious buffs?

Which greater dispel? There have been a few, but as far as I can recall all were foiled by contingencies or readied actions. (They know very well how vulnerable Rho is to dispelling tactics, and planned accordingly).