George RR Martin Update on his site
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Going off of memory, the original update has disappeared from his site, I do not see why such strong opposition exists. His feelings coincide with many people who think Bush is destroying this country. Also, his updates are similar to the millions of blogs that have proliferated as of late and many of them express political views as well. Why hold him to a different standard when it comes to politics? Even more shocking is those who think less of him or will no longer buy his books because he chose to exercise his right to speech. Now if you are merely upset that he is taking time off from the next book, that is perfectly fine. I no longer care, as I forsee long interims beyond just this book and there is other, better literature to read rather than suffer interminably long waits.
cignus_pfaccari
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ShadowX said:
My initial impression went something along the lines of "...so you're distraught over the election results? And *that* is what's getting you to write again? What if Kerry had won? Would we never see the (bleep)ing book, then? What if Bush won 65% of the popular vote? Would it be out by Christmas then?"
There's just something about saying he's going to try and drown his sorrow by immersing himself in writing that makes me lose respect for him.
Edit: Then again, I also think putting a political bumper sticker on your car is tacky.
Brad
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Fast Learner
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Um, Brad, I'm not sure what you read, but he said that he was not writing because he was depressed from the election results, and that while writing might help him escape the real world, he wasn't able to do so. Not that he was writing because of it.
Sarigar
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Rule #1 - Don't watch movies to learn history.
Rule #2 - Don't watch movies to find religion.
Rule #3 - Don't listen to Jessica Simpson telling me to vote. Do I really want all of Jessica Simpson's fans voting because she told them to and not because they feel that it is their duty to? Same applies to any "famous" person.
There are reasons people don't talk about Religion and Politics. Everyone has an opinion, and their opinion is the right opinion.
Nice one Taky.
Rule #2 - Don't watch movies to find religion.
Rule #3 - Don't listen to Jessica Simpson telling me to vote. Do I really want all of Jessica Simpson's fans voting because she told them to and not because they feel that it is their duty to? Same applies to any "famous" person.
There are reasons people don't talk about Religion and Politics. Everyone has an opinion, and their opinion is the right opinion.
Nice one Taky.
cignus_pfaccari
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Fast Learner said:
Really? Oh.
Well, there goes any pretense that I can read.
Brad
Fast Learner
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True, but I'd also argue that the reason people rarely really consider their beliefs/opinions about religion and politics -- often just going with whatever's easy, or popular, or what their parents did -- is because we're so afraid to talk about them. The only way we as a society will ever be able to talk rationally and peaceably about our political and spiritual beliefs is to learn to be tolerant of each others' viewpoints, and that can't happen if we're constantly shielded from them. To sum, the long term solution certainly isn't not talking about them.Sarigar said:There are reasons people don't talk about Religion and Politics. Everyone has an opinion, and their opinion is the right opinion.
I tend to agree that a creative type is better off expressing their belief through their craft, though they shouldn't be lambasted for throughing out one or two pithy, reductionist political lines. I can assure you that everyone, regardless of how well informed, presents their views simplistic manner, simply because it would be tiresome to toss out a thorough argument each time they were asked for comment.
That said, I would argue that Martin in particular has hinted at his politics and world view throughout his books. Though written before 9/11 or the war, it doesn't take a genious to see how the tragic characteristics of Rob Stark, who suffered a wrong by the death of his father, waged an ultimatly futile campaign for justice and honor in which he won every battle but lost the war, causing so many deaths that his original gripe seemed petty by comparison, applies to the current debate over international policy.
If the Song of Ice and Fire is anything to go by, Martin pretty much comes from the realist school, far from the peacnik sterotype often attributed to those with his politics.
That said, I would argue that Martin in particular has hinted at his politics and world view throughout his books. Though written before 9/11 or the war, it doesn't take a genious to see how the tragic characteristics of Rob Stark, who suffered a wrong by the death of his father, waged an ultimatly futile campaign for justice and honor in which he won every battle but lost the war, causing so many deaths that his original gripe seemed petty by comparison, applies to the current debate over international policy.
If the Song of Ice and Fire is anything to go by, Martin pretty much comes from the realist school, far from the peacnik sterotype often attributed to those with his politics.
KnowTheToe
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I stopped recommending these books a year ago because it was clear that it will be a long time before the series is finished. I think it could be 10 years before it is done.
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