George RR Martin Update on his site

Agreeing to disagree. :) No offense intended.

And to clarify: I don't think it's evil or immoral or anything for celebrities to endorse their personal political beliefs. I just think it's not the most effective way to use their power. So when I say "Bad", that's what I mean. Everyone has the right to state their personal beliefs, and I'm sorry if I implied otherwise.
 

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Thank you to everyone for keeping this discussion calm and mature. In the meantime, we've wandered into talking about Lindsay Lohan's political beliefs, which is a long way from a fantasy novel series. :)

If we want to keep talking about Martin's writing habits, that's OK; but let's keep the usual ENworld rules in mind.
 

So I've been working on a new epic fantasy series based on the political beliefs of Lindsay Lohan, but I'm having trouble finishing it because my artistic muse wants me to go play Shadows of Undrentide and eat Cheetos instead...

(Oh, darn it. Given my volatile imagination, I now am actually imagining an epic fantasy series starring Lindsay Lohan. That's just wonderful. That's great. Like I'm gonna get any work done this afternoon now.)

(Black screen, white letters slowly fading in)

Winter is Coming... (epic music)

(Quick cut of a people in mid-battle in the snow, screaming as blades flash...)

Magic is Returning... (epic-er music)

(Quick shot of a figure made entirely of shadows, choking the life from a warrior...)

And only one person can stop...
The OTHERS
(music now totally epic beyond all recognition)

(Quick shot of bizarre alien figures, obviously CGI, leaping through the forest and tearing people's heads off -- and then a sword lops one of their heads off. The other creatures look over in fear. The camera pans over to show Lindsay Lohan in a chainmail bikini, holding a claymore.)

Lindsay: Valar morghulis, baby! (spins sword and lunges forward as screen goes black)

Linsay Lohan IS...
Arya Stark, Girl Adventurer!


(Shot of Lohan fighting her way up palace steps)

Lohan: Affordable healthcare!

(Shot of Jeremy Irons in House Lannister's royal colors. because, really, in a movie this bad, you'd need Jeremy Irons to be the bad guy. It's tradition at this point.)

Irons: Destroy that welfare queen before she convinces Jon Snow and Tyrion to marry!

Arya Stark: Girl Adventurer
Summer, 2005... if it's finished by then


(Based on the novels and political beliefs of George R.R. Martin)
(This film has not yet been rated)
(Well, it was rated "Awful" on Rotten Tomatoes, but that hardly counts)
(And Harry of Ain't-it-Cool-News loved it)
 

takyris said:
That's just wonderful. That's great. Like I'm gonna get any work done this afternoon now.)

Same here, but it is all your fault for saying:

takyris said:
Lindsay Lohan in a chainmail bikini, holding a claymore.
For what it is worth, and to add something substantive while I can still concentrate a little, I agree with your position. Simply stating one's political leanings does little if anything to benefit a celebrity, and often damages one's reputation. As far as GRRM goes, I was buying the bit about taking a lot of time to get things right, but this just seems like a lame excuse now.
 




Oh just to contribute to the whole "Artist + Politics" thing --

The big problem in your view, taky, is that not everyone agrees on what's divisive and what isn't. To some people, arguing that universal health care is a good thing ISN'T divisive. In fact, it's not.

In Canada.

To some people, suggesting that spending valuable community resources on ANIMALS when there are PEOPLE who need help IS divisive.

I reckon if the law says "right to speak freely", it applies to famous people and not-famous people, and if I don't like the things a famous person says, I don't have to see their movies, listen to their music or buy their books. If they'd rather speak up than be famous/successful, that's not a moral failing. They may only be exposing their own lack of knowledge and intelligence, of course. That's their perogative.

But saying "Famous people should only discuss topics I think aren't divisive," isn't very helpful. They may WANT to influence public opinion. They may believe that if they speak up, more people will consider their point of view, come to agree with them, and act accordingly. And that's a fine thing to try and do, every bit as fine (if less likely to succeed, perhaps) as volunteering at an orphanage. Indeed, if the action hoped-for is of sufficient benefit to society, it's BETTER for them to speak up.

Honestly, I AGREE with you, mostly. I'm more impressed by an artistic statement than a direct one. I admire artists who can express their ideas about the world and nature of humanity and what's right and what's wrong through their work. But I don't insist that they do so.

I just turn off the TV whenever Sting appears.
 

A friend of mine was at a party in which George RR Martin was in attendence. After a few drinks, my friend went up to George and told him that he should consider himself pimp slapped for taking so long to write the next book. Needless to say George was not too happy about the comment. LOL! :p
 


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