D&D 5E Goodman Games Next Crowdfunding Project: Terror of the Underdeep

[mamba]

I might be even more interested in this than the adventures. Anything to share about that packet?

it costs $1 as an add-on PDF, so you can get it and some adventure pdf for backing for $2

It’s about their advantage system (hence advanced advantage) where if you get advantage / disadvantage you use the next larger / smaller dice instead of a d20 (so d24 for advantage), and I believe it can stack too

 

[GothmogIV]

I knew they made 5e stuff, but I had no idea it sold well for them. Good for them!

 

[Weiley31]

Interesting how one of the proposed ideas for their 5E variant system allows the idea of "double" Advantage/Disadvantage and factors allowing you to upgrade the D20 to the use of a D24.

So, adding elements of DCC to 5E. At least, that's kinda what I'm getting when I saw that.

 

[sevenbastard]

it costs $1 as an add-on PDF, so you can get it and some adventure pdf for backing for $2

It’s about their advantage system (hence advanced advantage) where if you get advantage / disadvantage you use the next larger / smaller dice instead of a d20 (so d24 for advantage), and I believe it can stack too

I was really hoping that the Advanced Advantage would be an actual 5e rule set with a Goodman Games old school feel and not just some diffrent advantage rules.

 

[Oryzarius]

I've read over the first part of the sample content they provide, and find myself puzzled by one element of background.

One of the motivations for a group of giants is their need to refine shipments of ore into ingots. But the specific material they're refining is "electrum ore", which isn't really a thing. Electrum is an alloy of gold and silver — not a specific, individual metal.

It sort of feels like the module's author was looking for a cool, little-used metal... but somehow thought electrum is an imaginary material like mithril or adamant, rather than a real-world substance. Or perhaps I'm wrong, and the confusion is resolved elsewhere in the text, outside the preview packet.

 

[mamba]

I was really hoping that the Advanced Advantage would be an actual 5e rule set with a Goodman Games old school feel and not just some diffrent advantage rules.

same, not sure it will amount to a full system rather than a set of house rules in the end though. There will be other playtest packages in their other kickstarters

The info is from the below video, the description has timestamps in case the link does not start at Advanced Advantage

 

[LordBP]

I've read over the first part of the sample content they provide, and find myself puzzled by one element of background.

One of the motivations for a group of giants is their need to refine shipments of ore into ingots. But the specific material they're refining is "electrum ore", which isn't really a thing. Electrum is an alloy of gold and silver — not a specific, individual metal.

It sort of feels like the module's author was looking for a cool, little-used metal... but somehow thought electrum is an imaginary material like mithril or adamant, rather than a real-world substance. Or perhaps I'm wrong, and the confusion is resolved elsewhere in the text, outside the preview packet.

There is naturally occurring electrum ore.

Electrum, the natural gold and silver alloy used to mint the first metal coins

 

[Oryzarius]

There is naturally occurring electrum ore.

The preview specifically calls out, "But her foremost mission is to see that the fire giants render pure electrum ingots for transfer to the cloud giants."

How, pray tell, does one produce "pure electrum ingots"? Is there some "pure" proportion of gold to silver? No. That sentence fundamentally misrepresents electrum, treating it as a purely fantastic material rather than the actual, real-world substance.

You wouldn't describe a rock containing both copper and tin as "bronze ore"; you wouldn't christen as "brass ore" a stone with deposits of both copper and tin. This is exactly the same situation.

 

[LordBP]

The preview specifically calls out, "But her foremost mission is to see that the fire giants render pure electrum ingots for transfer to the cloud giants."

How, pray tell, does one produce "pure electrum ingots"? Is there some "pure" proportion of gold to silver? No. That sentence fundamentally misrepresents electrum, treating it as a purely fantastic material rather than the actual, real-world substance.

You wouldn't describe a rock containing both copper and tin as "bronze ore"; you wouldn't christen as "brass ore" a stone with deposits of both copper and tin. This is exactly the same situation.

It all depends on your viewpoint.

In the real world and from modern standards a tin-copper ore could be labeled as stannite, but 7000 years ago, they may have called it a bronze ore as they could forge bronze from it.

Fantasy worlds may have some similar in that they don't have the technology/terminology that we do in the modern world and so simplify the ore to what can be extracted from it easily.

 

[Oryzarius]

It all depends on your viewpoint.

But you've (again) failed to answer the obvious question at the heart of the issue:

How do you define "pure" electrum, as called for in the adventure's plot?

There is no such thing.