[GR PR] Green Ronin to Develop RPGs for GW's BL Publishing

[thundershot]

So you're releasing a Warhammer d20 product?

I was just thinking that. Heh.


But I, too, am concerned with the status of the other d20 products. I don't want to see things pushed aside for something new. I want my Advanced books, dammit!



Chris

 

[Leopold]

I was just thinking that. Heh.


But I, too, am concerned with the status of the other d20 products. I don't want to see things pushed aside for something new. I want my Advanced books, dammit!



Chris

bah it's not going to be d20 so I don't care anymore


from the BL faq:

3./ Will WFRP 2 be a D20, or OGL game?

No. WFRP 2 will use a revised and updated version of the original WFRP rules that takes into account feedback from 20 years of active gaming!

4./ Why Not D20?

There are a number of reasons why we decided not to base WFRP 2 on the D20 license.

Firstly, and most importantly, there is a strong active community of WFRP players out there, and we wanted to give them an updated version of the system they love, taking into account their feedback and experience, rather than inflict a completely new set of mechanics on them.

Secondly, we believe that the system we have in WFRP represents a better fit with the Warhammer world than D20. That’s not to say we think D20 is a bad system (we think it’s great !), we just believe that in this instance, the system we have is more suitable.

useless

 

[NeuroZombie]

I am so glad that this is not going to be D20. I am sorry, but D20 would totally ruin the feel of the game, and for no good reason. The system reflects its Warhammer Fantasy Battles origins without feeling like "oh, we have a wargame, add a few skills and its an RPG" and is IMHO, one of the funnest RPGs I have ever played and/or GMed.

Kudos Green Ronin!!!

 

[Psion]

The original system really was not to my liking. That said, I can perfectly understand why they would want to cater to the existing fanbase. It almost wouldn't be warhammer if yuo didn't have a PC or two meet their end in a pile of their own entrails.

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

The original system really was not to my liking.

I love the original system, so I am happy in that respect.

But looking at it from GW's perspective, I would be very, very surprised if the system was not compatible with the same statistics used in the wargames. The orignal WHFRP used the same statline; if there is a change in this system, I would imagine it will be updated to the existing statline.

That might mean losing things like Will and Cool and lumping them under the generic "Leadership" stat in current use.

I would also expect (almost, even, hope) that the game uses only d6's, to further tie it to the miniatures.

EDIT: Which is to say, I'd like to be able to seamlessly switch between the RPG and the tabletop wargame.

Wulf

 

[Leopold]

I would also expect (almost, even, hope) that the game uses only d6's, to further tie it to the miniatures.

EDIT: Which is to say, I'd like to be able to seamlessly switch between the RPG and the tabletop wargame.

Wulf

I can honestly see why you would want that, but to me, especially heavy in the d20 market, pushing out another system is just a pain in the bottom to learn and then buy all new books for, etc etc etc

 

[Gothmog]

Count me as another person glad that this won't be a D20 product. The original WHFRP, while a little clunky, was also very simple to run, and captured the feel of the world in a way that D20 would have a hard time emulating. The grim and gritty feel of the Warhammer world is the prime draw of the game, and that feel must be maintained. Trying to force WHFRP into the D20 mold would ruin the feel of the game. In addition, the existing fanbase would revolt at turning this into a D20 game, and I can understand why considering the amount of material already published for WHFRP.

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

I can honestly see why you would want that, but to me, especially heavy in the d20 market, pushing out another system is just a pain in the bottom to learn and then buy all new books for, etc etc etc

I mean no malice at all in this, but you simply aren't the target market for this product.

This is an example of "growing the pie," if you ask me-- but in my opinion, it really does hinge on a 40K version of the game. (I don't think they'll really be adding new dollars to the RPG market with a Fantasy-only offering).

Lots of potential new roleplayers to be brought into the fold, here.


Wulf

 

[rlphay]

I can honestly see why you would want that, but to me, especially heavy in the d20 market, pushing out another system is just a pain in the bottom to learn and then buy all new books for, etc etc etc

Yea there may be new books to buy but if the format is the same then it will only be ONE book. That is the one thing that I loved about WFRP, is that you only have to buy that ONE book and no others. For D&D the cost is so much more since I have to buy a minimum of 3 books.'

Plus in keeping to the same system I can still use my old stuff. Yea!

 

[Leopold]

I mean no malice at all in this, but you simply aren't the target market for this product.




Wulf

On the contrary, I AM the target audience for this product.

Why?

Because myself and 3/4 of my group plays WH tabletop game and D20 for our fantasy game. We HAVE tried WFRP and it just was not our cup of tea. We have standardized on D20 as our system of choice and we all would really love to play in a world that most of us have armies of one shape or form of (skaven, elves, undead, and chaos) using the d20 rules.

I will reserve final judgement for the finished product and will at least pick it up to look at and read and see if it's even worth buying, but I truly wished it would've been d20.

oh well.