WotC Greg Tito On Leaving WotC: 'It feels good to do something that doesn't just line the pockets of *****'

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We reported earlier that WotC's communications director Greg Tito had left his 9-year stint managing the Dungeons & Dragons brand for a political appointment as Deputy Director of External Affairs for the Washington secretary of state's office.


In a surprising turn of events, Tito criticized his former employers, saying "It feels good to do something that doesn't just line the pockets of a**holes." He later went on to clarify "Sorry. I meant "shareholders".

Tito is now Deputy Director of External Affairs for the Washington Secretary of State office in Olympia, WA.

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And the (major) shareholders are the ones who demand that people be fired because the bosses have made poor investment decisions, because lowering payroll stokes the embers within their black shriveled hearts and allows them to keep pulling money out of the company. Greg's characterization of them is not without merit.
Mod Note:

Let’s not try to read extra meanings into the words of others. Facts first. He said “shareholders”, and didn’t go further.
 

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Yeah it’s really wild the way corporations have created a social consensus where they can let everyone go at the drop of a hat so those people can’t feed their families yet it is morally wrong to say mean things about them. Professionalism is a scam so you can be used without consequence.
It’s like rules of honor and fair fights. They’re all rigged in favor of the powerful to play to their strengths and keep the powerless from leveling the field.
I posted a response to a similar sentiment upthread. It's nothing to do with 'saying mean things'. It's a human nature/social dynamics thing. A manager who's hiring someone to work with them is going to want a person who has the best possible job skills (obviously...). The other important factor... just as important... is how easy this candidate is going to be to work with. If you show up to an interview with a stained shirt and needing a shower... those are obvious red flags. So are the more subtle social cues: not making eye contact, giving one word responses, arrogance, not taking responsibility for actions or blaming others, quick to anger, etc. All of these are signs of a person who is not going to work well with others. Maybe this candidate is an all-star and is worth the grief. Usually not the case though.

Doesn't matter if you're hiring a camera operator, a construction worker, a software engineer, an actor, etc. etc. Interviewers and hiring managers are all human beings and social creatures, regardless of their industry.
 

I posted a response to a similar sentiment upthread. It's nothing to do with 'saying mean things'. It's a human nature/social dynamics thing. A manager who's hiring someone to work with them is going to want a person who has the best possible job skills (obviously...). The other important factor... just as important... is how easy this candidate is going to be to work with. If you show up to an interview with a stained shirt and needing a shower... those are obvious red flags. So are the more subtle social cues: not making eye contact, giving one word responses, arrogance, not taking responsibility for actions or blaming others, quick to anger, etc. All of these are signs of a person who is not going to work well with others. Maybe this candidate is an all-star and is worth the grief. Usually not the case though.

Doesn't matter if you're hiring a camera operator, a construction worker, a software engineer, an actor, etc. etc. Interviewers and hiring managers are all human beings and social creatures, regardless of their industry.
The problem with this attitude is it leaves a lot of people unable to find work.
 

The problem with this attitude is it leaves a lot of people unable to find work.
In find that a bit of a non sequitur honestly. It's not an attitude... it's the way human beings work. If someone doesn't play well with others, they make the people around them miserable and make their lives more difficult.

If someone doesn't have the ability or desire to improve their social skills, their are jobs out there where there is lesser interaction with others. But at the end of the day, people are social creatures, playing by social rules, consciously and subconsciously.
 

Now that he works for the government if they ever need a reason to get rid of him; they have his statement about Wotc on deck.

Long memories.
 

"That's so unprofessional!" "The dirty language wasn't needed!"

Dude's on his personal account, first of all, so he doesn't HAVE to be professional, there.

And second: Expletives are SO USEFUL. And so -powerful-, too, when either used in special situations or really frequently since they can shape public perception pretty hard.

For a guy who works in Communications you can bet your bottom dollar he knows both the power of an expletive and when to drop one to great effect.

You'll see no clutching of pearls from me.

I'm right there with him on the whole insulting shareholders things. They're ruining everything, everywhere, for everyone. And have been for a -long- time.
If he was talking about personal stuff on his personal account, then fine! But he isn't. He's talking about work stuff on his personal account, no longer making it personal stuff.

I wouldn't hire someone like that, someone that will publicly smear the company he worked for. What has happened before, will happen again. So beware next employer! Especially when you don't exactly know why he doesn't work there anymore after almost 10 years... Only what why he says he doesn't work there anymore.

Also, this thing with management and shareholders isn't new, not at Hasbro, not at WotC, not anywhere. And still he's worked there for over 9 years! That's not just a few months or even a few years in the 'pool of corruption', it's been almost a decade! That sounds like a LOT of hypocritical BS in my book.

Shareholders exist in every company, even those held privately. The shareholder is just the owner. That can be the CEO, the founder, a family, the employees, it can be a bunch of fools, or a bunch of moneygrubbers. Shareholders are not by definition bad, but in certain countries and in certain branches they can be. YOU KNOW THAT WHEN YOU START WORKING THERE!

Working for small companies can be as toxic as working for large ones, the advantage of large companies: the budget is way bigger and often higher pay (less issues with getting a normal pay). And ANY organization has the potential for politics, especially bureaucracies and public officials.

That said, for the last ~15 years I've been self-employed. I'm pretty much legally required to act independently from the company that hires me to do the 'IT stuff' they want done. I'm hired to do a job, but they have very little say in how I do the job. I never want to go back working for a 'boss' ever again. I've spent about 10 years of that working for small businesses (including non-profits) and 5 for large to extremely large companies. These days I prefer large companies, don't care about their structure. I work for the agreed fee, on the agreed project, under the contractual obligations we agreed to. I have no problem doing more then contractually obliged to, but when I say that happens. I stay away from company politics and if I don't like it there, I'll finish the agreed upon work, but will not renew the contract for extension. I'm not joining a family, I'm doing work for money, because we all need money to live life. I prefer to do that as efficiently as possible.

The moment a company uses investors, that company is no longer owned by the founders, that's just the first step to a publicly held company. WotC was sold long ago and one of it's founders left not much later. The last 20 years also have shown what kind of company WotC/Hasbro is, not a good one for employees. All the Christmas layoffs must have become a tradition by now they have been happening long enough...
 

In find that a bit of a non sequitur honestly. It's not an attitude... it's the way human beings work. If someone doesn't play well with others, they make the people around them miserable and make their lives more difficult.

If someone doesn't have the ability or desire to improve their social skills, their are jobs out there where there is lesser interaction with others. But at the end of the day, people are social creatures, playing by social rules, consciously and subconsciously.
I just think the standards are a little high. Don't make enough eye contact, so you're unhirable? That hardly seems fair.
 


"No harm burning a bridge you don't intend to cross."

A roughneck offered that up when a coworker went scorched earth on our employer lol

In fact, if it's a bridge that you don't think anyone else should cross, either, burning it is doing active good.

First, this tweet did not actually say anything mean about a specific corporation. It said something mean about "shareholders" in general. Perhaps the underlying assumptions of capitalism. He's intentionally vague. I interpreted him as basically saying "It feels good to stop working for evil (corporate America) and start working for good (public service)." My spouse is a public servant, so I'm sympathetic, though they would be the first to tell you that not everyone who works in government is a shining paragon of humanity.

Basically, he's virtue signalling.

"Virtue signalling?" That's for when people are dishonest about their beliefs in public for some benefit. What leads you to believe that Tito's being dishonest, or that he's getting any benefit from this?

Seems from where I'm sitting to be a (small, but notable) risk, actually, and I don't see any indication that Tito's beliefs are dishonest here. So what's the opposite of virtue signalling? Maybe just acting with the conviction of your beliefs. That's what Tito's doing here. Acting with conviction.

Kind of thing more of us should be able to afford to do, to be honest.
 

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