WotC Greg Tito On Leaving WotC: 'It feels good to do something that doesn't just line the pockets of *****'

We reported earlier that WotC's communications director Greg Tito had left his 9-year stint managing the Dungeons & Dragons brand for a political appointment as Deputy Director of External Affairs for the Washington secretary of state's office.

Greg Tito Leaves Wizards of the Coast

Greg Tito, formerly the communications manager in charge of overseeing messaging for the Dungeons & Dragons brand, is departing Wizards of the Coast for a career in the public sector. Tito announced that he would be joining the Washington secretary of state's office starting this week, ending an...

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In a surprising turn of events, Tito criticized his former employers, saying "It feels good to do something that doesn't just line the pockets of a**holes." He later went on to clarify "Sorry. I meant "shareholders".

Tito is now Deputy Director of External Affairs for the Washington Secretary of State office in Olympia, WA.

 

[Eric V]

Sure. But Wizards would still have the right to request the return of their product, regardless of how many hands it had passed through?

It's a similar argument to: my car is stolen. The thief sells the car to an unsuspecting dupe. I request the car back from the dupe. What's the outcome?

Not sure, but whatever the outcome is, it should probably involve lawyers more than Pinkertons, no?

 

[Oofta]

Not sure, but whatever the outcome is, it should probably involve lawyers more than Pinkertons, no?

No. The Pinkertons were just hired to investigate how and why the product was released. You don't hire lawyers to do that kind of investigation. There was no presumption of guilt.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

The problem comes, though, when those conclusions ignore facts in favour of opinions coloured by said life experiences. Now you have a conclusion that is tainted, and that's objectively wrong. It behooves all of us to examine our opinions constantly. I'm doing that right now; there is a non-zero chance that you could sway me.

Keynes: When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, Snarf?

Snarf: Well, when the facts change, I get the case removed to federal court, and argue that facts don't matter. Because the true power of an attorney is to turn all issues of fact and law into issues of procedure. And I will procedure your facts to death.

 

[Eric V]

No. The Pinkertons were just hired to investigate how and why the product was released. You don't hire lawyers to do that kind of investigation. There was no presumption of guilt.

Well, the title of the article you linked to is

Magic publishers sent Pinkerton agents to a YouTuber’s house to retrieve leaked cards​

"Retrieve" =/= "investigate."

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

Not sure, but whatever the outcome is, it should probably involve lawyers more than Pinkertons, no?

Going to collect something that belongs to me is likely to involve a collection agency unless my property is down the street, in which case I would just go myself. By the way, a collection agency is step 1, not fetching a lawyer.

I get you're associating Pinkerton with some sort of militaristic, 'boot on the throat' activity here. Can you legitimately say that this is what happened? I'm just asking you to divorce what feels good from what we actually know happened.

 

[Guest 7031328]

The problem comes, though, when those conclusions ignore facts in favour of opinions coloured by said life experiences. Now you have a conclusion that is tainted, and that's objectively wrong.

It's also a problem when this is the claim when that is not actually what is happening in every instance. Hence, the "everyone else is ignorant, my point of view is the only one based on facts" I mentioned.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

It's also a problem when this is the claim when that is not actually what is happening in every instance. Hence, the "everyone else is ignorant, my point of view is the only one based on facts" I mentioned.

Okay. Can you show me an instance of this?

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

It's also a problem when this is the claim when that is not actually what is happening in every instance. Hence, the "everyone else is ignorant, my point of view is the only one based on facts" I mentioned.

Yeah, that's not great. Trying to have a discussion with someone who is super duper sure and can't be budged off their pulpit... I have better things to do with my afternoon.

 

[Guest 7031328]

Okay. Can you show me an instance of this?

To keep it vague and not risk potential rule breaking, an insinuation that an action taken is "reasonable" when others are claiming it is not reasonable due to context that is considered important or not important by both parties. Some people are taking into context that this is a matter between the seller and the creator, with additional context of the history of that organization used. Others continue to stand on the position that this context is not important, and people are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Different value placed on that context, but with some claiming ignorance is at play for not holding the same values.

Both positions are taking facts into account, but you have someone outright making comparisons to people claiming a government document says one thing without actually having knowledge of said document.

This is not to claim no emotional hand wringing or lack of information at various points, but the broad strokes being used is just a bit hand wavey of legitimate concerns.

 

[Eric V]

Going to collect something that belongs to me is likely to involve a collection agency unless my property is down the street, in which case I would just go myself. By the way, a collection agency is step 1, not fetching a lawyer.

I get you're associating Pinkerton with some sort of militaristic, 'boot on the throat' activity here. Can you legitimately say that this is what happened? I'm just asking you to divorce what feels good from what we actually know happened.

I genuinely don't feel anything about what happened.

If something belongs to you, sure. Collect.

Ownership of the cards here was in question though,...hence why I assumed lawyers would be more useful than Pinkertons.

"I get you're associating Pinkerton with some sort of militaristic, 'boot on the throat' activity here." I do not...that's a bit of you projecting, I am going to respectfully suggest. No, I was only thinking that if we're not sure, legally, who the cards belong to, a collection agency is the wrong way to go.