D&D General Greyhawk Humanocentricism?

This is something I was wondering, to be honest. Given the focus of the setting on how good is balance and all that, why those damned neutrals haven't created a kingdom of good demigods to oppose Iuz?
Well, it’s not like the Circle of Eight wasn’t involved in obtaining the Crook of Rao to use in stopping both Iggwilv’s fiend army and banishing all the demons in Iuz’s forces in the Flight of Fiends. They don’t NEED to set up good kingdoms to oppose Iuz - they’ve got Furyondy and Veluna - they just give them the weapons they need to help contain Iuz.
 

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Well, it’s not like the Circle of Eight wasn’t involved in obtaining the Crook of Rao to use in stopping both Iggwilv’s fiend army and banishing all the demons in Iuz’s forces in the Flight of Fiends. They don’t NEED to set up good kingdoms to oppose Iuz - they’ve got Furyondy and Veluna - they just give them the weapons they need to help contain Iuz.

 

replying to these three at once cause they feel like they're all more or less getting at the same thing, and not to be so dismissive but all that is pretty much setting lore nonsense IMO, you haven't given any actual reasoning beyond seemingly repeating 'well they're part of ebberon's lore so they should stay that way', adhering so strictly to the specifics of their creation is needlessly restrictive in a way that doesn't get applied to the majority of the other species, you don't get people saying 'well you can't have dragonborn in X setting because there aren't dragons and dragonborn were modified from dragon eggs', they just say 'here's this species of cool dragon people, they exist here', golems are standard fare in most settings and wizards are inventing new experiments and creations all the time, and warforged are pretty much just a more advanced golem when you get down to it, 'once upon a time there was a wizard who thought it'd be pretty neat if he had a sentient golem, so he figured out how to make the first warforged and eventually spread the technique far and wide, at one point it was discovered the warforged have their own souls and were made their own people' boom, done, how warforged exist in any setting whatsoever without magitech or artificers or the war or anything else.

Creamcloud, you failed your reading comprehension test.

@Voadam, thanks. :)

I think you are completely misreading DrunkonDuty, Greyhawk specifically had a well known big deal ancient "cataclysmic war between 2 or more magical super powers".
 


And how does that war actually effect warforged’s nature as sentient constructs? From how I’m seeing things it doesn’t, lore is malleable, what’s established in one setting need not be true in the next.

Thinking about it I point to a surprisingly similar species in the cybermen from doctor who, The original series cybermen, who iirc were originally converted mondasians(the denizens of earth’s lost sister planet) all got wiped out, in newWho the cybermen are back, being a converted humanity (from a parallel dimension) but cybermen same as ever despite their altered origins.

This post?

Dude, you clearly completely misread my post. When it was politely pointed out to you you replied with this non-sequitur. Does it stand? As a statement? Sure. Does it address the fact that you misunderstood what I was saying? Nope.

Just to recap

The post of mine that you misread gave an example of how I'd introduce Warforged AND STILL KEEP THEIR ORIGINS SIMILAR TO THAT OF THEIR ORIGINS AS DESCRIBED IN THE EBERRON SETTING.

All I did was describe one way to introduce them to the Greyhawk setting. Are there an infinite number of fictions one can use to introduce fictional things into a fictional story? Obviously. :rolleyes:
 

This post?

Dude, you clearly completely misread my post. When it was politely pointed out to you you replied with this non-sequitur. Does it stand? As a statement? Sure. Does it address the fact that you misunderstood what I was saying? Nope.

Just to recap

The post of mine that you misread gave an example of how I'd introduce Warforged AND STILL KEEP THEIR ORIGINS SIMILAR TO THAT OF THEIR ORIGINS AS DESCRIBED IN THE EBERRON SETTING.

All I did was describe one way to introduce them to the Greyhawk setting. Are there an infinite number of fictions one can use to introduce fictional things into a fictional story? Obviously. :rolleyes:
ok yeah sorry, reading comprehension 0/10, genuinely, it was only reading this post that i realised you'd said greyhawk in your original post not ebberon and/or that they were not the same location,
 
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