Ha! I am invincable, Prove me wrong!

[Umbran]

(how do they know to dispel his acid resistance ring again ?)

Any high-level wizard should use his immense intelligence - you don't confront an enemy until you know their strengths and weaknesses. A simple Detect Magic will reveal the ring exists, and that and simple logic will suggest that it's protective in naure.

 

[Gromm]

Assuming a low Will save as someone else theorized, knock him down to -1 and Death Knell him.

You'd have to do actual damage to him, not subdual damage. Which is the issue if I recall.

As far as ECL, the current ECL rules put this guy at somewhere around level 15. Troll +11, 1/2 Dragon +4, with no classes (IIRC on the ECLs).

So hes unkillable, but with as few hit points as he's likely to have at CR 15, hes not unstoppable. Not to mention his utterly worthless Will save will make him held/traitor anytime anyone tries to take him over.

Personally, Id rather have any 15th level character, but its an interesting idea.

How he'd probably die? Only if the rest of the party was down, or there was a planned effort to kill him.
Then its not so hard. KO him with subdual damage and then walk over and take off the ring (or cut off the hand whatever). Douse with lots of acid arrows/acid attacks.

Hes killable, just not in most situations (hell he can't be properly digested by most things).

 

[Varius]

Hey, im the player that was considering making this character. I actually just did it just to piss off another player. He is always complaining that I am powergaming, and keeps saying that he should get special benifits because he doesn't. He calculated that he could do 112 damage or so on a shield charge, so he weakend it. (PS> he is a half celestial with a +3 ECL)

There are two other reasons I tried this:

1) The random encounters in this world are crazy. At level 10 Cornugens suprise attack us, Slaads suprise attacks, and many many more things. We are drained in resources after about 3 of thesse type of encounters, so I needed something that could recover easily

2) I also did it just to see if I could. I joked with the DM about making a character who was immune to damage. Later, I did it (well, almost...)

****Oh yea, The people that say drown him are forgetting his Ioun stone makes it so he does not need to breath

 

[Caliban]

****Oh yea, The people that say drown him are forgetting his Ioun stone makes it so he does not need to breath

That's why I said knock him unconscious, strip him and then drown him.

 

[kreynolds]

That's why I said knock him unconscious, strip him and then drown him.

I've got a much better idea.

DM: "You better scratch that troll thing of yours and whip up a new character before I whip your rear!"

 

[Dr. Zoom]

As far as ECL, the current ECL rules put this guy at somewhere around level 15. Troll +11, 1/2 Dragon +4, with no classes (IIRC on the ECLs).

AFAIK, the current ECL rules are in the DMG, and they put trolls at +8. If you are referring to the charts in Dragon #293, those were printed as a proposal for new rules for a future product for which they wanted feedback. They are not official rules. Not yet anyway.

If I am missing something, please let me know.

 

[bret]

As a GM, not my problem. Make it a problem for the adventuring party to deal with.


Suggestion that "That wizard behind you is planning to cheat you. Better kill him before he hurts you."

Phantasmal Killer of something like a Delver. The illusion includes his loosing the protective ring.

Confusion, let the party deal with their unkillable creature. Follow it up with a Suggestion that "Your group was just looking for an excuse to kill you."


Suggestion that "Those magic items you've got are all cursed! Better remove them before the curse activates." Proceed to apply Acid Orbs once the ring is gone.


I really wanted to use Dominate Monster, but that is 9th level. Can't use the direct approach to getting him to fight other group members.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

First, I would go with the ECL's from Dragon #293. That would be 11 for being troll and +4 for being half-ragon. So he would be CL1 when the rest of the party is CL16. And he had to face CR 16 Monsters, or a CL 16 Character!

He would get 6HD for being Troll. Usually these would be 6d8, but I think the half-dragon will change that to 6d12.

Now for being "invincible": He is a munchkin, and therefore he can expect to have to fight another munchkin. Consider a Mage or Sorcerer of his ECL (if he only has 1 Class Level, this would be a Sor16 or Wiz16, usually an Evo16). He would have an Intelligence/Charisma of 20 (at least: we're talking of Lv 16, so he would get 4 points to boost his INT/CHA, and much mony to buy magic items to further power it up), Spell Focus (Evocation) and Greater Spell Focus so his spells are pretty hard to save against (19 + Spell Level). He'll have energy substitution (Acid), Energy Admixture(Acid) and Maximize Spell.

This Evocer could deal considerable acid damage to the Dragontroll: a Maximized Acid Orb (Spell Level 7) will deal 90 points of acid damage (Fortitude DC 23 half), an Acid Admixed Acid Orb (Spell Level 8) would deal 30d6 points of acid damage (Fort DC 23 Half) for an average of 105, an Acid Substituted Maximized Cone of Cold (SL 8) would also deal 90 points of acid damage (Ref DC 24 Half) and since the wizard is hasted, he could cast two such spells in one round! Such an Evocer would have 4 7th-level spells and 3 8th-level spells, so he could do this three rounds long before resorting to "lesser" spells, as Maximized Acid Substituted Fireball (60 Damage, SL 6) or such. Of course, he could also have a rod of Maximization (maximize spell without hightening the spell level 3/day), either normal or greater, which would allow to maximize the Acid Admixed Acid orb, which would then deal 180 Acid Damage. Thrice (twice in the first round, another time the next before the rod is useless for the day).

Also, a character with 16 levels in a battle-oriented class would just hack him to pieces and drown him in acid.

So invincibility is far away if you "fight fire with fire" (one munchkin with another...)

 

[Henrix]

get out a wand of enveneration - and zap him a few times.

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Much simpler, but you will have a size large wight to deal with afterwards - provided you don't dispose of the body properly.

I always thought that Wight should be a template

 

[Voadam]

Jontherev

sorry about the multiple reply, I missed page 2 entirely when I posted before.