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[megamania]

?!?

 

[Scott DeWar]

?!?

the nuttiness regarding care beasts

 

[Relique du Madde]

I'm an atheist. I don't even get what you mean. What do the carebear beams actually do?

Carebears beams affect the emotions/minds of people based on the nature of the animal's power source/governance. Ie "Ecstasy bear" would cause people to have the fits of ecstasy/euphoria. Since a carebear's existence is based off mass "caring" one could say that the the less people care about things/people the less power they have over creation. Thus, in a way, they are demi-gods in DnD terms (they each seem to have singular concept portfolios) although in the cartoon they seem to be a thinly veiled allusion to Judeo-Christian concept of angelic beings.

Anywaus, if they encounter a person who doesn't believe in the divine, or the supernatural, can they be able to affect that person? If they are able to do so, then will the person start worshiping the carebears as divine beings (since that sees to be a common trope in all religions) or will they rationalize away their spontaneous burst of emotion and ignore the talking animal with a vibrant colored pelt with a mystic symbol on it's belly? Or will they think they are having a psychotic break with reality then go on a killing spree?

These are questions I ask myself because I want to know what would happen if I encountered a carebear*.



* Of course when you think about it, since there is a "Grumpy Bear" there has to be a "Homicidal Rage Bear" and a "Sociopathic Ambivalence Bear"

 

[jonesy]

Atheism is just disbelief in a universal creator or creator-equivalent. Meeting the carebears you'd have evidence (at least personal) of their existance and what they can do, or what they choose to show you they can do. The effect their powers have is a whole other issue entirely. Seems to me you might be confusing not believing and not caring. I have the capacity to care a great deal about things I don't really believe exist. And not really care at all about some things that I definately know do.

Edit:

* Of course when you think about it, since there is a "Grumpy Bear" there has to be a "Homicidal Rage Bear" and a "Sociopathic Ambivalence Bear"

They should form a band.

 

[jonesy]

Are people in America aware of Paperinik? I used to own all of the classic stories when I was younger and I used to think that everyone knew about him. Much later I found out he was actually an Italian thing.

As a consequence I found Darkwing Duck baffling. Not the character, but his existance. Why come up with that when the franchise already had something more complex built up.

 

[Scott DeWar]

Are people in America aware of Paperinik? I used to own all of the classic stories when I was younger and I used to think that everyone knew about him. Much later I found out he was actually an Italian thing.

As a consequence I found Darkwing Duck baffling. Not the character, but his existance. Why come up with that when the franchise already had something more complex built up.

paprinik, no.

darkwing duck, regretfully yes

 

[jonesy]

Check out the image on the tvtropes page for him:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/PaperinikNewAdventures

 

[Relique du Madde]

The effect their powers have is a whole other issue entirely. Seems to me you might be confusing not believing and not caring. I have the capacity to care a great deal about things I don't really believe exist. And not really care at all about some things that I definately know do.

Not really. In a way I'm looking at it from a weird angle. In gaming terms, is it possible to negate the affects of a deity/divine creature's power by disbelieving it*?


*This might actually be a good question to ask a Planescape aficionado since that question is in line with some of the thinking from one of the factions (grr... I can't think which one).

 

[jonesy]

I've only dabbled in Planescape so I don't really know for sure, but since belief plays such a huge part there in everything that is and happens I'd guess that you could make a god fall there simply by getting all of his followers to stop believing in him. Not that it'd be simple.

But the carebear beam? Did that ever not work on the show? It seemed to run on the power of plot resolution.

 

[Scott DeWar]

still, sorry. never seen it. when did it aire?