Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince point of discussion (Spoilers)

[ShadowDenizen]

Shadow, are you sure it is not you liking of Draco that makes you hope he will be redeemed? Any mayhap your dislike of the Ginny/Harry thing is from your hope for a different type of Harry slash Draco than that book gave you?

Nope.
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Well, probably not.

I actually view Harry as sort of asexual, for the most part. It seems like he's more consumed with other things. (Not that I blame him, with the Dark Lord after him, and all.)

I thought his interactions with Cho Chang were forced and akward (Yes, I know he's a teenage boy, so he's supposed to be akward, but their scenes just didn't ring true.): and the Ginny thing? Just came too far out of left field for me to find it believable.

However, I totally bought the Ron/Hermione story hook, line and sinker, since they had such a good build-up to it in previous books. (I didn't buy it as much in the movies, but that's a rant for another thread.)

As to Draco: I think it just seems evident that, with the parental influences out of the picture, for the most part, that Draco will be redeemed, likely when one of the Death-Eaters turns and tries to kill him.

I have no desire to see Harry/Draco become friends: they just seem too different to find ANY sort of common ground. But I don't see Draco as irredeemably evil as people make him out to be, either.

 

[Bullgrit]

This is not a complaint about this thread or anyone in it. I just am posting this for what it's worth:

I have been avoiding spoilers about the latest book, waiting for the movies (as I've done with all but the first book -- just don't have time to read the HUGE volumes, right now). I heard a major character dies in Half-Blood Prince, but I've avoided guessing who.

I've posted in the other HP thread (about Goblet of Fire), and opened this thread thinking it was the other. The very first thing my eyes fall on is a sentence referencing Dumbledore's death. *^&%&*(*^!! I can't beleive I did this. Crap.

Oh well, maybe I'll forget by the time this comes to the screen.

Crap on a stick.

Bullgrit

 

[Ulrik]

I've posted in the other HP thread (about Goblet of Fire), and opened this thread thinking it was the other. The very first thing my eyes fall on is a sentence referencing Dumbledore's death. *^&%&*(*^!! I can't beleive I did this. Crap.

I feel for you. It's kinda hard reading a forum like this, which covers quite a wide base. I read a thread (the character-killing thread) thinking it was about a Feast for Crows, which it was, and then [Serenity spoiler]

I don't think it can be helped, but sometimes it feels like navigating a minefield

 

[FCWesel]

I will toss this out for discussion purposes only. This is entirely speculative.

Harry will discover he is the final horcrux.

Hmm. What if Hermione is the last Horcrux holder? Muggle parents, greatest wizard of her time, etc. Big drama for Harry and his boon companions. Can he in any way save her and defeat the enemy?

Just a thought.

 

[Barendd Nobeard]

Hmm. What if Hermione is the last Horcrux holder? Muggle parents, greatest wizard of her time, etc. Big drama for Harry and his boon companions. Can he in any way save her and defeat the enemy?

Just a thought.

Brilliant, but a little too dark for JKR, I think.

I think Hermione is her alter-ego; she won't kill "herself" in book 7.

 

[RigaMortus2]

For those who haven't read the books (namely, ME ), what is a horcrux?

 

[Staffan]

Sort of like a lich's phylactery in D&D. You put part of your soul in an item, and as long as that item isn't destroyed, you can't be killed.

 

[FCWesel]

I think Hermione is her alter-ego; she won't kill "herself" in book 7.

Yeah, I agree with you on that Barendd. To bad though, I do think this would be more interesting by far then what seems to be the case. Here's to hoping we are wrong.

 

[Kid Charlemagne]

Raise Thread!

I'm bringing this one back because I just started rereading "Half-Blood Prince" in preparation for the 7th book coming out, and noticed something in Chapter 1 that I hadn't noticed before - namely that Snape agrees to his Vow without having a clear idea what he's agreeing to.

Unless I'm missing a sentence somewhere he clearly seems to be bluffing his way through the conversations with Cissy and Bella. He acts like he knows what they're saying, but I don't think the words "kill Dumbledore" ever come out of anyone's mouth.

Am I missing something?

 

[sckeener]

Raise Thread!

I'm bringing this one back because I just started rereading "Half-Blood Prince" in preparation for the 7th book coming out, and noticed something in Chapter 1 that I hadn't noticed before - namely that Snape agrees to his Vow without having a clear idea what he's agreeing to.

Unless I'm missing a sentence somewhere he clearly seems to be bluffing his way through the conversations with Cissy and Bella. He acts like he knows what they're saying, but I don't think the words "kill Dumbledore" ever come out of anyone's mouth.

Am I missing something?

Nope you didn't miss anything....he agrees without knowing what he is being asked, later in the book Dumbledore & Snape argue and it is basically agreed that Dumbledore ordered Snape to complete full fill the vow...thus saving Draco from the fate of being the one that killed Dumbledore and keeping Snapes cover.

Sort of like a lich's phylactery in D&D. You put part of your soul in an item, and as long as that item isn't destroyed, you can't be killed.

One thing I like about the Horcrux's vs a lich's phylactery, Voldemort's life being spared but really not worth living...if he hadn't had Wormtail's help he'd have continued like that for ages...