Kid Charlemagne
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WayneLigon said:
I don't think that will work - I believe that Harry is only protected at the Dursley's until he turns 17.
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince-SPOILERS!!!!
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I don't think that will work - I believe that Harry is only protected at the Dursley's until he turns 17.
Lord Pendragon
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Not only that, but he's protected by his mother's blood sacrifice. The only way to duplicate this (if it's even possible for someone other than your mother and for someone who is already 17,) would be for Ginny to die for Harry, which I don't really want to see.Kid Charlemagne said:
I like Ginny. I'm hoping that she tells Harry what he can do with his "noble sacrifice" and that she's going to be his girlfriend whether he likes it or not, so he might as well go with it.
Most sertently how I see the relation in book 7.Lord Pendragon said:Not only that, but he's protected by his mother's blood sacrifice. The only way to duplicate this (if it's even possible for someone other than your mother and for someone who is already 17,) would be for Ginny to die for Harry, which I don't really want to see.
I like Ginny. I'm hoping that she tells Harry what he can do with his "noble sacrifice" and that she's going to be his girlfriend whether he likes it or not, so he might as well go with it.
minitrue
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I don't think Harry is on to the Horcrux, too many times the Death Eaters or V have tried to kill him through out the different books. I also do not think that Harry will ever become and auror. Harry clearly doesn't trust the Ministry, and as long as the current Minister stays around he won't let Harry become an Auror unless Harry is willing to become the Ministry's poster boy. If Harry survives I could definetly see him back at Hogwarts as the DADA teacher and eventially Headmaster, in a very Dumbledore type roll, giving the Minister of Magic advise but going on with his own plans regardless if the Minister listens to him or not. Also I think Harry will relive that as an Auror you only get to impact society on a relatively small scale, where teachering at Hogwarts you will be influencing generations of wizards.
Dark Psion
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I think Harry is the missing Horcrux, it was his murder that was to forge the last one, but Lily's abjuration shattered Voldmort's soul. As to the Death Eaters trying to kill Harry, they probably don't know about the Horcruxs, in fact maybe Voldemnort didn't figure it out till recently.
Remember
As to Dumbledore's death, at first I thought he was faking, I mean with all of his power, but then I remembered his hand.....and with all of his power.
I think he was already dying.
I think Snape swore an Unbreakable vow to Lily to protect Harry and that is why he helps him and does not kill him.
As to is he evil, oh yeah !
But he is not going to be Voldemort's lacky this time, he is just waiting for his moment to avenge Lily's death and with Voldemort's final death, Snape can stop hiding. Considering his knowledge of Potions, why hasn't he written his own book? Because he could not risk coming out of the shadow of Dumbeldore.
I think Regulus Black is RAB, but if he is alive, it is only because Snape was the one who "killed" him. That would give Snape an extra edge.
As to the next book, I think Harry will try to do it himself and fail miserably, possibly loosing his owl in the process. He will be rescued by Fawkes and brought back to Hogwart's to recover. Then the team will unite for the final battle. Maybe the real Moody will be the DADA teacher next year. If the Order of the Phoenix is based from Hogwarts, that might convince the parents to send the children there, perhaps just for their safety alone.
Remember
As to Dumbledore's death, at first I thought he was faking, I mean with all of his power, but then I remembered his hand.....and with all of his power.
I think he was already dying.
I think Snape swore an Unbreakable vow to Lily to protect Harry and that is why he helps him and does not kill him.
As to is he evil, oh yeah !
But he is not going to be Voldemort's lacky this time, he is just waiting for his moment to avenge Lily's death and with Voldemort's final death, Snape can stop hiding. Considering his knowledge of Potions, why hasn't he written his own book? Because he could not risk coming out of the shadow of Dumbeldore.
I think Regulus Black is RAB, but if he is alive, it is only because Snape was the one who "killed" him. That would give Snape an extra edge.
As to the next book, I think Harry will try to do it himself and fail miserably, possibly loosing his owl in the process. He will be rescued by Fawkes and brought back to Hogwart's to recover. Then the team will unite for the final battle. Maybe the real Moody will be the DADA teacher next year. If the Order of the Phoenix is based from Hogwarts, that might convince the parents to send the children there, perhaps just for their safety alone.
Just had a thought in the middle of the night. The new DADA teacher for book 7 will be someone that NEEDS an assistant in the form of one Harry Potter. Because the teacher will be the most unusuall to date.
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Dumbledore's Portrait
Of course other Headmaster's Portraits, whom were noted for fighting the Dark Arts, will be hung in the classroom also. Dumbledore will use Harry to cast the spells being taught.
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Dumbledore's Portrait
Of course other Headmaster's Portraits, whom were noted for fighting the Dark Arts, will be hung in the classroom also. Dumbledore will use Harry to cast the spells being taught.
BiggusGeekus
That's Latin for "cool"
Finished the book yesterday.
* Harry pulling a Peter Parker and telling Ginny to take a hike makes sense. Ginny isn't neccearily on the DE's list. Potter spent a few weeks dating Ginny, most of that time was by the lake or whatever. The big public display was in front of the Griffendor house, not Hogwarts at large. Malfoy and Snape were busy during this period. It's possible that the DEs really don't know about Ginny. Luna, however, was Potter's date to the party. Oops.
* As much as it will pain me to see Dumbledore come back in a portrait (Obi-Wan?) I think it is inevitable.
* IIRC, Snape reserved three memories that he absolutely did not want Potter to know about. We saw one, were James was taunting him as a youth. This leaves two others. At least one of them has to be who he is really working for. I suspect the other is a memory swearing his alliegance to whomever he's really double-crossing.
* Also, you can break an Unbreakable Vow. You just die in the process. Snape has proven himself that no matter what you think of him, he's no coward. He may swear these Unbreakable Vows at the drop of a hat, knowing that sooner or later he's going to have to break one and bite it.
* I think Snape killed Dumbledore as a mercy killing. The werewolf was about ready to do it anyway, orders or no orders. By the time Snape walked into the room, Dumbledore's life expectancy could be measured with a stopwatch, it was just a question of how it was going to go down. Snape now has impeccible DE creditentials and he at least spared Dumbledore getting tortured.
* Why is anyone attracted to Ron? I mean, really? It must be a most-popular-guy-in-school thing because nothing else makes sense. Well, other than, Ron's-a-hero-because-we-said-so.
* I was dissapointed to learn that the Half-Blood Prince was Snape. Sure, it all makes sense, but I felt like I was reading an Agatha Christie mystery where the vital clue isn't revealed until the end and it's impossible to solve the puzzle otherwise.
* Harry is still kind of a prat, which I liked to see. Tonks was no longer fun to hang around, so Harry tries to ditch her. Exactly like most teens would do.
* I'm still a little shocked that Harry, Ron, and Herminone (!!!!) won't be returning to the school. We already saw a format change with this book, it didn't start on Privit Drive, it started in the Prime Minester's office. The last book, I'm guessing, will deviate a lot from the tradition.
* Draco's a chump. At this point, were it up to me, he could not be saved. It is no longer a question of him wanting to do the right thing, the point is that when the chips are down, he gravitates to whoever is strongest. I LOVE the notion other posters have mentioned about him being a surragte son for Snape though.
* McGonnel will be the headmaster, I'm betting. No one else has a strong enough personality. Snape might have, but I'm guessing he's no longer on the tenure track.
All in all, a good read!
* Harry pulling a Peter Parker and telling Ginny to take a hike makes sense. Ginny isn't neccearily on the DE's list. Potter spent a few weeks dating Ginny, most of that time was by the lake or whatever. The big public display was in front of the Griffendor house, not Hogwarts at large. Malfoy and Snape were busy during this period. It's possible that the DEs really don't know about Ginny. Luna, however, was Potter's date to the party. Oops.
* As much as it will pain me to see Dumbledore come back in a portrait (Obi-Wan?) I think it is inevitable.
* IIRC, Snape reserved three memories that he absolutely did not want Potter to know about. We saw one, were James was taunting him as a youth. This leaves two others. At least one of them has to be who he is really working for. I suspect the other is a memory swearing his alliegance to whomever he's really double-crossing.
* Also, you can break an Unbreakable Vow. You just die in the process. Snape has proven himself that no matter what you think of him, he's no coward. He may swear these Unbreakable Vows at the drop of a hat, knowing that sooner or later he's going to have to break one and bite it.
* I think Snape killed Dumbledore as a mercy killing. The werewolf was about ready to do it anyway, orders or no orders. By the time Snape walked into the room, Dumbledore's life expectancy could be measured with a stopwatch, it was just a question of how it was going to go down. Snape now has impeccible DE creditentials and he at least spared Dumbledore getting tortured.
* Why is anyone attracted to Ron? I mean, really? It must be a most-popular-guy-in-school thing because nothing else makes sense. Well, other than, Ron's-a-hero-because-we-said-so.
* I was dissapointed to learn that the Half-Blood Prince was Snape. Sure, it all makes sense, but I felt like I was reading an Agatha Christie mystery where the vital clue isn't revealed until the end and it's impossible to solve the puzzle otherwise.
* Harry is still kind of a prat, which I liked to see. Tonks was no longer fun to hang around, so Harry tries to ditch her. Exactly like most teens would do.
* I'm still a little shocked that Harry, Ron, and Herminone (!!!!) won't be returning to the school. We already saw a format change with this book, it didn't start on Privit Drive, it started in the Prime Minester's office. The last book, I'm guessing, will deviate a lot from the tradition.
* Draco's a chump. At this point, were it up to me, he could not be saved. It is no longer a question of him wanting to do the right thing, the point is that when the chips are down, he gravitates to whoever is strongest. I LOVE the notion other posters have mentioned about him being a surragte son for Snape though.
* McGonnel will be the headmaster, I'm betting. No one else has a strong enough personality. Snape might have, but I'm guessing he's no longer on the tenure track.
All in all, a good read!
Hijinks
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Ah but .. if he were truly working on the good side, why hide it from Harry? You would think he would want Harry to stop suspecting him and causing trouble for him. For me, the one reason he has to hide those memories, if those are indeed what he hid from Harry, would be because they involve him really working for the evil side.
Tauric
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Okay, just finished, so I'm late for the party.
I don't think it matters if Snape is evil or not. Harry is never going to forgive him. Not after learning it was Snape who told Voldemort of the prophecy, and definately not after the events on the tower. I don't think Harry will go out of his way to kill Snape, but he will if Snape gets in his way.
I have two ideas about Dumbledor's death. One, he had Snape kill him because D knew that while he was around, Harry would always rely on him (the Giles reasoning). Two, D needed Harry to see him die to finally spur Harry into action (the Obi-Wan gambit).
I'm not sure what my point is here, but I wanted to get my analogies out there.
I don't think it matters if Snape is evil or not. Harry is never going to forgive him. Not after learning it was Snape who told Voldemort of the prophecy, and definately not after the events on the tower. I don't think Harry will go out of his way to kill Snape, but he will if Snape gets in his way.
I have two ideas about Dumbledor's death. One, he had Snape kill him because D knew that while he was around, Harry would always rely on him (the Giles reasoning). Two, D needed Harry to see him die to finally spur Harry into action (the Obi-Wan gambit).
I'm not sure what my point is here, but I wanted to get my analogies out there.
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