Pathfinder 1E Has Paizo been selling my address?

[Gallo22]

It just amazes me at what "we" get offended over now-a-days. I usually don't spend my time responding to threads like this as it makes me just as guilty, but I see it all the time here on EN World (and elsewhere) and quite frankly it makes me sad.

Us gamers are always telling those who put us down or make fun of us that we are better that their perception of us, yet we go on rants about something a trivial as unwanted mail, etc., not to mention jumping to conclusions about who may have sent it to us or what laws they broke. Deleting e-mail or throwing away the advertisement probably took up less time than typing in a thread about it.

I really don't understand the level of this "tragedy" when we have more important things to put our efforts into. The real problems and horrors of everyday life that happen around our communities yet we complain and worry about the most mundain things.

This email is not directed specifically at the writer of this thread but to all the threads that go on about such similar matters. It's one thing to say you dislike something or some product and post here on EN World, asking the "community" how to fix it or get it changed or suggest that we don't buy it, but it's quite another to go on and on about how you hate this, or that company did not do it right or someone is getting over on you, etc.

When the time comes to really complain about something important, it won't matter, because we've watered down the real complains by complaining about the trivial ones.

The tone of this post should be taken as soft spoken...

Gallo22

 

[Krolik]

I received an ad for the chess set and I am neither a member of the Paizo board or a subscriber to any of their magazines. I have gotten various Con information through the years (Gen Con, Winter Fantasy, Origins, etc) and attribute the chess set ad to being on the Con mailing lists.

 

[werk]

I like to use typos and secret code in my personal information.

SBC thinks my last name is Netz, so when I got a tonne of junk mail for Mr. Netz, I knew it was SBC. When I called them, they swore it wasn't them, and I explained that the rep on the phone was ignorant of the fact that they did it, through no fault of his own, but it is happening...even before I started using their service. I got junk before I was even a customer, it was the first thing that happened once they had my info. I then gave them the 'opt out' speech and cancelled my service that wasn't installed yet, and haven't gotten anything from them since.

That second address line, yeah, that's a great place to store notes.

 

[Maggan]

Deleting e-mail or throwing away the advertisement probably took up less time than typing in a thread about it.

I can only speak for myself, of course, but the time saved by not dealing with literally hundreds of pounds of junk mail every year is significantly higher than typing about it on this message board.

I really don't understand the level of this "tragedy" when we have more important things to put our efforts into. The real problems and horrors of everyday life that happen around our communities yet we complain and worry about the most mundain things.

Complaining about mundane things does not equal a disinterest, or even a non commitment to other, important things in life. For me at this time in life, junk mail is the least of my worries.

But sadly, the more pressing matters are not for me to solve. I have to leave that to medical science.

When the time comes to really complain about something important, it won't matter, because we've watered down the real complains by complaining about the trivial ones.

I partly agree, but then again people must be able to blow off some steam once in a while, and I think Dr. Awkward has not crossed any forbidden lines with his complaint.

The problem with limiting complaints to truly important stuff is the distinction between what's important to me, and to you. Here in Sweden, waste of natural resources such as paper is deemed pretty important. Many, of not most, swedes recognise Dr. Awkward's feelings on the matter, and deem the issue to be fairly important on a larger scale.

The tone of this post should be taken as soft spoken...

As should my reply.

/M

 

[sjmiller]

In the United States, if you wish to not receive direct marketing material (commonly referred to as junk mail) you need to be active instead of passive. The Direct Marketing Association has a Mail Preference Service that allows you to be removed from the mailing lists of members of the DMA. DMA members must abide by this, and other marketers are encouraged to follow it as well. Check out http://www.the-dma.org/cgi/offmailinglist in order to do this. Unless you take an active stance, a company can, and often will, let associate companies know you are potentially interested in their products. After all, you would not have purchased the original product if you were not interested in it.

You can also use the words Direct Marketing Opt-Out or Mailing List Removal in your favorite search engine to find out other ways of being removed from direct marketing lists.

 

[Gallo22]

I can only speak for myself, of course, but the time saved by not dealing with literally hundreds of pounds of junk mail every year is significantly higher than typing about it on this message board./M

I thought this thread was about two pieces of junk mail received on one day, not a years worth? :\

 

[BryonD]

When I give out my address I put who I am giving the address to in the "business" field.

I got the chess flyer today.
It was addressed to:
Bryon Dahlgren
Dragon

So there you go.
It doesn't bother me.
But there is the answer.

 

[Chainsaw Mage]

Today in the mail, I got a pair of advertisements, addressed to me, trying to sell me a D&D chess set. To be clear as to what this post is about, I hate ads. I hate them with a burning passion. . . .

Does anyone know who's been selling my info to WotC? The company that sent the mailer is on the return address as "Astromail, Inc." and lists an American address in Kent, WA, so I assume that WotC uses this company for their direct-marketing crap.

Bloody ad-men. Cutting down trees to throw into landfills.

Dude, throw the ad in the recycling bin and chill out. Seriously.

Honestly, the things that get some people's backs up . . .

 

[JoshuaFrost]

Not Paizo.

Paizo Publishing, LLC® did not sell the Dragon or Dungeon subscriber lists for this direct mailer. Folks here in the office received it as well and we haven't been subscribers for ages (it's free!) or even at all. I repeat: this was not a Paizo Publishing mailer. We did not sell the subscriber lists for this mailer. Paizo has great respect for the privacy of our customers--if you've selected to opt-out of messages from our marketing partners we honor that request.

Yours Truly,

The lowest form of scum you could scrape off the floor of a certain cantina on Tatooine Paizo Marketing Guy.

 

[Ao the Overkitty]

I suspect it is the RPGA, too, not Paizo. Why we got two instead of just one is odd.

I'll second this suspiscion. I don't have any paizo subscriptions, but rpga has my mailing info. I got the ad today at my old mailing address.