Has the horse left the barn?

[CleverNickName]

I try not to use the words "always" and "never." So let's just say that I am highly unlikely to play 4E ever again.

Something that might make me pick it up again? If WotC was to re-release all of the classic BECM modules for the 4th Edition. The Keep on the Borderlands and The Isle of Dread especially. And only if they stay absolutely faithful to the original maps, room descriptions, encounters, and overall story (within reason.)

I got my hopes up about this when they yoinked the PDF sales of the old out-of-print modules. I thought, "surely they wouldn't do this for no good reason...they must be re-releasing them!" But alas, we all know how that panned out.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I was open to a 3.5 revision but what we wound up with was a different game.

I'm with you 100%, there- this precisely the same kind of thing that caused the failure of New Coke.

 

[Plane Sailing]

What does "the Hybrid rules" refer to? Is there a 4e revamp coming, or does this refer to the new Red Box/Essentials stuff, or something else?

[EDIT: Ah, just read the following post! It appears it means "Rules for Hybrid creatures" or something like that.]

No, it's hybrid classes. A take on multiclassing which is slightly closer to 3e style even multiclassing (based on the original previews... might be different for release I guess)

Hybrid classes are sorta 'half classes', and you alternate taking powers between the two class lists IIRC.

It would give a lot more class flexibility. If I was to play in 4e again I wouldn't mind playing a "fighter wizard" who basically looks like a jedi: at-will powers are 'force push' (thunderwave) and an appropriate fighter power. The power selection over the first 10 levels would fit in nicely with this (and the mage hand cantrip is used for the light telekineses we see in the films - sword jumping to hand, flicking switches with a guesture, etc)

Cheers

 

[Dausuul]

No, it's hybrid classes. A take on multiclassing which is slightly closer to 3e style even multiclassing (based on the original previews... might be different for release I guess)

Actually, it looks a lot more like 1E/2E multiclassing than like 3E.

 

[rogueattorney]

The main thing 4e taught me is that I'm simply not interested in another 3-volume, $90, 600+ page fantasy rpg. I've already got a few of those. I don't want another. I don't have the time, energy, or interest for it. I'm not going to get the use out of it to justify the expense.

If any single one of my gaming friends had expressed an interest in running a game of it, I may have gotten the phb. But they didn't. (A buddy running 3.5 is the only reason I ever got that phb.)

The Essentials line may get me over that hurdle. The problem is, I'm far more intrigued by the Dragon Age and LotR rpg, and if I were to buy into a new system it'd more likely be one of those two.

 

[Desdichado]

With the 2010 releases of PHB3 and its "hybrid" multi-classed characters and the new "basic" beginners rules. Would you be willing to try it again? Have you already made your mind up about 4e?

Clearly this is a question for those that were turned off or disappointed by 4e.

I'm still not 100% sure I'm following your question. Maybe you should spell it out instead of assume that people who don't play 4e are already well aware of upcoming releases and exactly what they mean. Because, frankly, that doesn't seem logical to assume that. I don't have any idea what you're talking about.

Be that as it may, my disinterest in 4e really had nothing whatsoever to do with any attributes of 4e per se, so no, no matter how cool it looks to be in the future, I'm not likely to give it a second look.

 

[Greg K]

I might be willing to play a one shot in heroic tier, but not a weekly or otherwise ongoing campiang. Many of the game mechanics get in the way of what I want out of an rpg and others I don't care for the implementation which is a shame, because there a few things I like about 4e over 3e.

To get me back regularly is going to take two things
1. An Unearthed Arcana with optional rules to replace what I don't like about 4e.
2. A change in supplement format. I really don't like the PHB [x] and Power series format. When it comes to supplements for races and classes, I prefer the 2e Complete Handbook series and, for 3e, Green Ronin's Master Class series. I want a supplement that focuses on a single class or race and takes a more indepth look at the various fantasy and cultural variants of that one class or race.

 

[Theo R Cwithin]

No, it's hybrid classes. A take on multiclassing which is slightly closer to 3e style even multiclassing (based on the original previews... might be different for release I guess)

Hybrid classes are sorta 'half classes', and you alternate taking powers between the two class lists IIRC.

Ah OK, I understand now. Thanks for the explanation!

 

[Azgulor]

With the 2010 releases of PHB3 and its "hybrid" multi-classed characters and the new "basic" beginners rules. Would you be willing to try it again? Have you already made your mind up about 4e?

Clearly this is a question for those that were turned off or disappointed by 4e.

The answer is the same as it was 2 mos. after release - I have no desire to play nor run 4e. It just ain't my cup of tea.

I also do not like lima beans and brussel sprouts. I've tried my share and I've never acquired a taste for them. At this stage in my life, I've concluded I'm never gonna like 'em either.

Some things in life are like that. 4e falls into this category.

 

[jaerdaph]

Some things in life are like that. 4e falls into this category.

QFT. For me it's olives, Fig Newtons, and 4e.

Oh, and ARMY BUILDER® too.