Haste's Partial Action

[Li Shenron]

Just wondering...

1) As a partial action you can "start a full-round action", so for example a hasted spellcaster could cast 3 Summon Monster every 2 rounds, isn't it? Such as:

R1 - full action = cast SM , partial action = start casting SM
R2 - partial action = finish casting SM , full action = cast SM

But if "start a full-round action" is a partial action, what is "completing a full-round action"? Of course it is another partial action, but if the Haste effect ends before R2, is "completing" a standard action or a MEA?

2) Can or does it make sense to use Total Defense while hasted? You use a FRA to do TD (and get a move with it), then you still have a partial to use. Do you retain the TD bonus until the next round or does it go off before/immediately_after the partial? What if you FIRST take the partial and THEN the TD's move: do you have the AC bonus during the partial (e.g. if you suffer AoO)?

3) Can or does it make sense to Refocus while hasted? Refocus is a FRA with no 5ft step allowed, but do you get the partial action from haste? Can you Refocus both before or after the partial?

 

[FreeTheSlaves]

Come version 3.1 all your concerns will disappear.

But until then
1) No, 2 partial actions do not make a full action.
2) This is a perfect example of haste wrecking havoc on my mental well being.
3) See 2.

 

[Archer]

2 partials do make a full action. You could cast 2 summon monster spells in 2 rounds but each monster would get in a full set of attacks 1 round earlier in normal. You could start with a partial and finish with a standard and have a MEA left over and not worry about having your spells disrupted.

I don't think you can do a full defense and attack in the same round just like you can't charge and then partial charge again in the same round.

You would refocus once to get a full round and 2 partials in a row? It doesn't seem like refocus is really worth doing.

 

[dcollins]

(1) Actually, I believe if you dig into the FAQ you'll see that the Sage added a ruling that a partial action lets you immediately finish a pending "1 full round spell". Under that ruling, you'd only get 2 summons in 2 rounds, but the monsters appear immediately in the partial action.

(2) Depends on whether the PHB precisely states it last until the next "round" or the next "action". If the former, I believe you could do it, in accordance with other Sage rulings that haste does not alter per-round limitations.

(3) There's no actual advantage to doing this.