Help me lose weight

[Eolin]

Which part? Eolin seems to have the non-scientific-methods part nailed - while I'd have to say the arrogance and bullheadedness are being handled by other parties.

Right, because I'm the one who denies evidence of the senses.

 

[Torm]

Right, because I'm the one who denies evidence of the senses.

There are certain things we have discovered, particularly in physics but also in other disciplines, that tell us that, as diagnostic equipment, our senses just plain aren't good enough. Ya have to have a working hypothesis, and then you have to test hell out of it. And then do it again. And again..... And share your method and the results - even on occasions when they don't support your hypothesis.

OTOH, if you're talking about individual-sense-proof, well, it is just that - individual. I can have all the proof I need for myself that there is a G-d and then some - but the fact that we can't quantify and qualify it one way or the other by the methods described above (YET) is the reason you can't just walk up to a non-believer and say "look" and get a believer afterward, or vice-versa. It isn't their individual-sense-proof.

 

[Torm]

PS to Zander: A vigorous argument may help burn calories and cause weight loss - and that's what we're demonstrating. Yeah - that's the ticket!

 

[Eolin]

There are certain things we have discovered, particularly in physics but also in other disciplines, that tell us that, as diagnostic equipment, our senses just plain aren't good enough. Ya have to have a working hypothesis, and then you have to test hell out of it. And then do it again. And again..... And share your method and the results - even on occasions when they don't support your hypothesis.

OTOH, if you're talking about individual-sense-proof, well, it is just that - individual. I can have all the proof I need for myself that there is a G-d and then some - but the fact that we can't quantify and qualify it one way or the other by the methods described above (YET) is the reason you can't just walk up to a non-believer and say "look" and get a believer afterward, or vice-versa. It isn't their individual-sense-proof.

I know. As stated earlier, Eolin is a philosopher. Of Science. And all that.

Anyway, our belief in microscopes and telescopes is an extension of our belief in our senses.
And I don't have better-than-sense proof evidence for what I've been talking about. I don't have access to labs, or to large groups of people who I can test. What I do have is an awareness that something has chemically changed in me, and it started because of the lemons.

Its not like a belief in g*d. I've lost 20 pounds, and that cannot be easily denied or brushed off. The fact that I'm more energetic and just overall feel much better is subjective -- but 20 pounds of fat falling off my body really isn't.

 

[Shemeska]

I can see by your tone that you would not be willing to even consider that alternate methods of medicine can work. Keep in mind that Chinese herbal medicine has been around for several thoudand years longer then modern medicine. Diseases like MS, ALS, cancer and so many others are less prevalent in countries that do not use modern medicine.

Wrong. Certain types of cancers that are utterly rare in the west are much more prevelant in China: nasopharyngeal carcinoma for instance. There are also cancers in asian cultures that occur much more than in the west, some linked to diet and some linked to genetics, some to both.

Given the massive pollution in industrial areas in china, I could only guess at the respiratory ailments in those areas. Traditional chinese medicine isn't doing much for either those or the cancers in any accepted studies.

And what pray tell are the rates of childbirth mortality in most nations without modern medicine compared to those who do? *eyebrow* I'm happy that I or my kids won't have a major risk of dying from any number of diseases that modern medicine has almost eradicated, or allowed us to be immune to.

When was the last time alternative medicine eradicated smallpox from the face of the planet?

 

[reanjr]

I'm extraordinarily lazy, so my tips are for those who want almost no impact on their daily lives and no real activity (unless it's enjoyable).

Drink black coffee about 45 minutes before you eat. It speeds up the metabolism and you burn the calories from eating quicker. Note, putting sugar or milk in just adds back calories. And lactose (if you choose to use 0% fat milk) slows your metabolism back down. This has basically the same effect as if you work out before you eat, but requires much less effort.

Also, when reading a book, walk around instead of sitting or lounging. Even at a glacially slow pace, you keep your blood pumping and your muscles moving.

Oh, and play Dance Dance Revolution on XBox/PS2/GameCube

 

[Zander]

PS to Zander: A vigorous argument may help burn calories and cause weight loss...

No, it won't. You're definitely wrong about that. Wrong, I say. You simply have no idea what you're talking about. If you have any degrees, you should be stripped of them. Tarred and feathered. That's what should happen to you and your ideas. This very minute! (How am I doing so far? )

 

[Torm]

No, it won't. You're definitely wrong about that. Wrong, I say. You simply have no idea what you're talking about. If you have any degrees, you should be stripped of them. Tarred and feathered. That's what should happen to you and your ideas. This very minute! (How am I doing so far? )

Good, good! Now, would you like the 5 minute argument, or the full 30?

 

[Zander]

Good, good! Now, would you like the 5 minute argument, or the full 30?

Well, let's just say that I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

 

[Eolin]

Well, let's just say that I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Also, what I've been doing recently in terms of eating is so bizarre I dare not post it. Either nobody'd believe, or I'd get called a witch doctor.