Help me lose weight

[Crothian]

Which part?

umm...yes?

 

[Desdichado]

I am someone who lost 45 lb in two years (well the first 30 lbs in six months, then 15 in 1.5 year). So I will give you my advice, which is an over-simplification of scientific studies (try Dr Seignalet on google to know more if you need, but all sites in French...).

So basically:

1) No more wheat/corn in any form. As such, no more bread, pizza, cakes, spaghettis, and so on (and no more beer ever!).

2) No more milk and dairy products. As such, no more milk, butter, cheese, ice-creams, etc.

3) No more refined sugar. As such, no more chocolate delicacies, sugar in the coffee, coca-cola and like beverages, cakes, etc.

4) Eat preferably raw rather than cooked.

Eating everything else poses no problem. But with such a diet you nonetheless will be led to eat primarily vegetables, fruits, rice, fish, and meat (preferably meat such as chicken).

The great thing with this, is that you loose weight that you won't take again (provided you keep going on with that diet), you loose it effortlessly. I mean: you don't need to starve. Well, the only time you starve is during gaming sessions when everyone else is eating junk food all that time. Myself, I eat (as suggested above) plenty just before going to the game, and then, well, I don't look at all the stuff available...

Exercising is also a good thing, but I have still to go to the gym...


My advice: just do as I suggest for one full month (just one month) and see the result. Remember, it's about the choice of food, not quantities, so you don't need to starve.

Blech. Who needs to torture themselves? Just eat less of the same foods you always have. My wife has always been able to lose weight (usually after giving birth) to the order of up to 40 pounds or more in six months or less just by eating smaller portions and running. Eating all weird food and avoiding normal food is just gimicky.

On a side note, why do you set your goal in stones? That's not very helpful because nobody uses that, so nobody knows what it means. Pounds or kilos work just fine.

 

[Eolin]

Blech. Who needs to torture themselves? Just eat less of the same foods you always have. My wife has always been able to lose weight (usually after giving birth) to the order of up to 40 pounds or more in six months or less just by eating smaller portions and running. Eating all weird food and avoiding normal food is just gimicky.

On a side note, why do you set your goal in stones? That's not very helpful because nobody uses that, so nobody knows what it means. Pounds or kilos work just fine.

Eh, most of the stuff he mentioned is fairly bad for us.

Of course, I do still eat whatever I want. To some degree, I've changed what I want. But still, I love the pizza. and milk. and cookies, to some degree.

Point is, it isn't gimicky to avoid the foods he's mentioned. Breads, particuarly white breads, pretty easily put on weight. Add in that a lot of people don't digest gluton well ... and it looks like we should avoid it. Still though, I loves it.

 

[Desdichado]

I've issued this: Try a lemon a day for a week. That's 7 lemons -- lemons, which are healthy anyway.Try it with water. See if you feel different at the end of the week.

At least I'd get rid of that bloody scurvy that way... Arrr.

 

[Desdichado]

I can see by your tone that you would not be willing to even consider that alternate methods of medicine can work. Keep in mind that Chinese herbal medicine has been around for several thoudand years longer then modern medicine.

So has bloodletting by leeches. I don't find that a very compelling stance.

Diseases like MS, ALS, cancer and so many others are less prevalent in countries that do not use modern medicine.

I have no idea if that's even true or not, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and still point out that you conveniently forget to mention that life expectancy is also much lower.

Using magnets to relieve pain is something that you must experience, as pain is something of individual perception. Magnets have been used for hundreds of years longer then modern medicine.

I heard almost the exact same thing from folks who use poisonous remedies like colloidal silver. Or other equally useless remedies like Essential Oils. These same people were on the run from the IRS for refusing to pay income tax, and believed that there was a big conspiracy to keep them down because they had invented new engine technology that would put the current automotive companies out of business. They also talked about alien abduction quite a bit.

My perception of you, Die was one of limit, and I hope that I am wrong about you. You have nothing to contribute when you refuse to open your mind to possiblities.

1-900 psychics use lines like that quite often.

 

[Torm]

Also, what I've been doing recently in terms of eating is so bizarre I dare not post it. Either nobody'd believe, or I'd get called a witch doctor.

Ooh ee ooh ah ah ping pang walla walla bing bang.

You're a witch doctor, and I don't believe you. There. Now you have no excuse not to tell us what you've been doing - all the repercussions have happened anyway.

 

[Torm]

So has bloodletting by leeches. I don't find that a very compelling stance.

Actually, leeches have seen use again, recently, by honest-to-goodness certified and competent medical professionals. Although not for what they were originally. The new use has to do with the natural anticoagulant leeches produce to keep the wounds they make bleeding - in surgery, they can be used to prevent clotting. See this. Interesting if somewhat disturbing stuff.

 

[Torm]

I heard almost the exact same thing from folks who use poisonous remedies like colloidal silver. Or other equally useless remedies like Essential Oils.

Also, there has been scientifically researched evidence lately that the idea that a dilution that is so diluted that it has essentially none of the original material in it can have the same effect as that material on the body is true - and researchers are trying to figure out WHY, cause it defies certain aspects of what we thought we knew. See #4, here.

And essential oils aren't useless - I don't know what remedies they are supposed to make, but I do know that Teatree Oil makes a fair bug repellant.

 

[Eolin]

Ooh ee ooh ah ah ping pang walla walla bing bang.

You're a witch doctor, and I don't believe you. There. Now you have no excuse not to tell us what you've been doing - all the repercussions have happened anyway.

Fine, Torm. Just for you.

For the past nine days, I've been doing what's called "Master Cleanser". In effect, it is an ultra-low calorie diet. It consists of drinking lemonade -- of a very particular sort.

The lemonade is made of: fresh lemon juice (obviously), Grade B Maple Syrup, cayenne pepper, and water. I use warm water, but its not necessary.

What does this do? Many, many things. For one, it is supposed to cleanse the body of toxins. Given how I feel now compared to how I did then, that sounds legit. You also simply *shed* fat while on this diet -- I'm going to weigh myself tonight and see how much I've lost. It also makes you realize at a fundamental level that you don't need food. I've fasted for nine days, and feel like I could keep doing it forever. As of the fifth day, I have an actual disdain for solid foods. I havn't been hungry in a week, either. Empty when I wake up, but not hungry.

Tonight I am going to begin weaning myself off. This isn't a permanent thing, just an experiment. It has worked out very well.

Even though I've been ingesting only around 1200 to 1500 calories per day, I do not feel weak or tired. I've gone for walks the past two days, and have done what I normally do. I havn't been working, but that's because I'm inbetween jobs right now.

that's the witch-doctor stuff I've been doing for the past week. And its been fantastic. Its weird, before I started changing how I eat I thought I felt fine. Now I can see how far I've come, and have also been able to see how much farther I can go. At times I can see all the way up the mountain.

 

[Torm]

The lemonade is made of: fresh lemon juice (obviously), Grade B Maple Syrup, cayenne pepper, and water. I use warm water, but its not necessary.

Not sure what the maple syrup is for, but I understand the rest: The lemon juice is for acid that helps break down junk clogging up the works, cayenne increases your metabolism and makes you burn through calories a little quicker and sweat, and water is, well, water.

I drink something similar occasionally when I'm feeling like I'm tightening up in my digestion: Lemon juice extract, lime juice extract (just cause I like it and it is essentially the same except flavor), sugar (hmm, maybe the maple syrup is just for flavor?), and water. Seems to do the trick - like an uber-laxative. Grandma taught me to make it.

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