Help please. Complaints by players!

[Gallo22]

"You can always tell a player from a DM" Yeah, no kidding... Just look for the guy trying to part the Red Sea...

I think you were within your rights to give the bridge whatever DC you wanted, but I don't necessarily think that 20 is a reasonable DC for a very wide bridge with ropes you can hold on to... When walking across a fairly normal bridge (slimy or not) is probably more difficult than staying upright on a (nearly)frictionless surface created by a Grease spell, my suspension of disbelief tends to waver a bit...

That's one thing, the other is that the player has the right to be at least somewhat annoyed with having his 9th level character challenged by a freakin' slimy rope bridge. Just an everyday situation with the DC jacked up high enough to make it a challenge - uninteresting, and possibly embarassing. (especially when it seems like no one else even had to try hard to get across)

If you're throwing something at a 9th level character, then don't make it something you could use against a 1st level one, just with a higher DC - if you are tailoring things like that to your characters, make it something worth their while...

Lets see. Two large mimics looking like trees on either side of a bridge traped by a 10th level druid to be difficult to cross, with green slime under the bridge to "catch" the fallen, while the druid attacks as they try to cross. Nope, that does not sound like a challenge for 8th/9th level characters.

BTW, I eventually let the party cross with the balance check at 15 to prove a point. All of them made it very easily. Boy, that was exciting for them and they got alot of experience for it also!

 

[JacktheRabbit]

"You can always tell a player from a DM" Yeah, no kidding... Just look for the guy trying to part the Red Sea...

I think you were within your rights to give the bridge whatever DC you wanted, but I don't necessarily think that 20 is a reasonable DC for a very wide bridge with ropes you can hold on to...

ROFLMAO!!!!

You do not believe that a bridge that ONLY exists in the OTHER guys IMAGINATION should have the DC20 that he gave it.

Who died and made you God?

 

[mmu1]

ROFLMAO!!!!

You do not believe that a bridge that ONLY exists in the OTHER guys IMAGINATION should have the DC20 that he gave it.

Who died and made you God?

Not you, sadly enough... Probably wouldn't take the job either, I'm not the one with a pitifully adversarial relationship with his players and horrible control issues.

 

[Gallo22]

Not you, sadly enough... Probably wouldn't take the job either, I'm not the one with a pitifully adversarial relationship with his players and horrible control issues.

Im laughing, that was funny.

If my relationship is so bad with my group why have we been gaming, the same people for 3 years every monday night. It must be pretty bad. Isn't there another thread right now discussing lack of players. I have never had that problem. Atleast not for the past 3 years.



Always someone has to attack. Leave it to someone from the "city". Usually when someone goes on the offensive in a conversation it because they do not have the intellect or maners to constructively comment. They realize how wrong they are so they lash out. I've been on the threads (EN World) for about 6-8 months and this is always the case.

Some of my players did not agree with me, and I not with them. This does not mean we now hate each other and the game is terrible. These are some of my best friends. We get past disagreements like this all the time. Next monday when we meet it will be pretty much over. This is why my group has lasted so long and will continue to do so.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

Not you, sadly enough... Probably wouldn't take the job either, I'm not the one with a pitifully adversarial relationship with his players and horrible control issues.

Not that I care what you think but I do believe most levels of etiquette in this forum frown upon you wishing for the death of a fellow human being.


The truly sad part is you still do not GET it.

 

[Gallo22]

Well, I'm done commenting. I just want to say thanks for those of you that gave constructive comments. They'll help both me and my players so maybe next time we'll meet in the middle. Thanks.

For those just looking for a fight, whatever!

Gallo22

 

[mmu1]

Im laughing, that was funny.

If my relationship is so bad with my group why have we been gaming, the same people for 3 years every monday night. It must be pretty bad. Isn't there another thread right now discussing lack of players. I have never had that problem. Atleast not for the past 3 years.

Decaf, my friend... I wasn't quoting you when I posted that, was I? Aside from a dig directed at your somewhat inflammatory comment about players vs. DMs, I don't recall attacking you - just disagreeing with you.

I stand by my post based on your initial description of the situation. Had you elaborated on it from the start, I'd probably have had a somewhat different point of view, although I still think using what's basically a 1st level trap with a jacked-up DC as a method of delivering players where the real trouble is, isn't particularly well suited to 9th level play. (As you seem to have found out)

 

[Elvinis75]

I think that the DC was set right.
I think that there were things that could have been done to lower the risk for the PC stand point but your DC was correct IMHO.

 

[MarauderX]

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Am I being unreasonable.

No. Absolutely not. 9th level? Tell the player that his masters in law and pointing the obvious doesn't matter. Sounds like he's a little competitive anyway, but don't kill off the PC for only trying to cross a bridge, as even I would not like that. Otherwise, tell him to relax and leave his PHB at home so everyone can have a good time enjoying the dancing rogue on the slimy bridge.

 

[Mark]

Well, I'm done commenting. I just want to say thanks for those of you that gave constructive comments. They'll help both me and my players so maybe next time we'll meet in the middle. Thanks.

Glad to help. See you around.