Help Tweak A Dragon Disciple (my players, stay out!)

[moritheil]

This is a named NPC. She needs scrutiny re: feats, maneuvers, gear, and skills. Further progression would probably be Ab Champ.

CHARACTER NAME : Lirre "the Living Dragon"
RACE (ECL) : Human (+0)
CLASS (LEVEL) : Battle Sorc 4/Crusader 1/Dragon Disciple 10
... NET LEVEL : 15
ALIGNMENT : LN
SIZE : Medium
SPEED : 30 ft
TYPE : Dragon


EXPERIENCE : xp
CASH : gp

ABILITY SCORES: 40 point buy: 10+0+10+4+10+6
Str 28 (+9) (16/base 8/rac 4/enh)
Dex 14 (+2) (14/base)
Con 27 (+8) (16/base 3/bon 2/rac 6/enh)
Int 14 (+2) (12/base 2/rac)
Wis 8 (-1) (8/base)
Cha 22 (+6) (16/base 2/rac 4/enh)

SAVES
FORT +23 (1/sor 2/cru 7/dd 8/con 5/res)
REF +10 (3/dd 2/dex 5/res)
WILL +15 (4/sor 7/dd -1/wis 5/res)

Note: Immune to acid, sleep, paralysis.

HIT POINTS : 4d8 +1d10 +10d12 +120 = 209
ARMOR CLASS
Standard : 24 (10/base 2/dex 9/armor 3/nat)
Touch : 12 (10/base 2/dex)
Flat-Foot : 22 (10/base 9/armor 3/nat)


INITIATIVE : +2 (2/dex)
BASE ATTACK : +13
RANGED : +16 (2/dex 1/enh)
MELEE : +26 (9/str 4/enh)

WEAPONS
MW Mighty Composite Longbow [880 gp; Darkwood; 1d8+6 x3 add +5str bon to dmg]
Masterwork Cold Iron Heavy Flail [330 gp; 1d10 19-20x2]

LANGUAGES
Common, Draconic

RACIAL TRAITS
1 free feat, 1 extra skill point/level.

HALF DRAGON
At 10th level, a dragon disciple takes on the half-dragon template. His breath weapon reaches full strength (as noted above), and he gains +4 to Strength and +2 to Charisma. His natural armor bonus increases to +4, and he acquires low-light vision, 60-foot darkvision, immunity to sleep and paralysis effects, and immunity to the energy type used by his breath weapon.



CLASS FEATURES
BSorc - Ignore light ASF, d8, 3/4 BAB, -1 sp known
Crusader: damage pool 5 hp; +1 att/dam; 5(2) + 1 stance.
Dragon Disciple: 3 nat AC, 2 int, 4 str, 2 con, wings, half dragon, 6d8 acid cone

Casts: As sorc 4

Maneuvers: IL 8
Battle Leader's Charge* (no AOO, +10 dam),
Revitalizing Strike (heal ally 3d6 +IL)*,
Foehammer (ignore DR, +2d6),
Mountain Hammer (ignore DR, +2d6),
Douse the Flames (no AOO)

*Prepared

Stances:
Thicket of blades (DS3)


FEATS
Cha 1 . Spellfire Wielder (absorb spell levels = con, use as arcane bolt or 2 hp/lvl healing)
Cha 1 .
Cha 3 . Battlecaster (can cast in Medium armor with 0 ASF)
Cha 6 . Power Attack
Cha 9 .
Cha12 .
Cha15 .
Cha18 .
---------------[ Epic Threshold! ]---------------
Cha21 .
Cha24 .


SKILLS (FIX)

Concentration +26 (18 ranks +8 con)
Know (arcana) +23 (18 ranks +2 int)+2 to spellcraft
Know (planes) +23 (18 ranks +2 int)+2 to planar survival
Move Silently -1 (0 ranks +2 dex -3acp)
Sense Motive -1 (0 ranks -1 wis)
Spellcraft +25 (15 ranks 2/int 2/ka)

Spent ranks

EQUIPMENT gp.
Adventurer's Outfit
Mithral full plate +1 [11500 gp, AC 9, -3 ACP, 12.5lbs. 3dexlimit]
MW Mighty Composite Longbow [880 gp; Darkwood; 1d8+6 x3 add +5str bon to dmg]
Masterwork Cold Iron Heavy Flail [330 gp; 1d10 19-20x2]
Ring of Counterspells [4000 gp; dispel magic]
Sun Blade (+4 vs evil) [50355 gp; 1d10 19-20 x2 (x3 and 2x dam vs. undead), +2 (+4 vs evil)]
Vest of Resistance [25000 gp; +5 to saves]
Cloak of Charisma [16000 gp; +4 cha]
Gauntlets of Power [16000 gp; +4 str]
Belt of Health [36000 gp; +6 con]


SORC SPELLS: 4 4 2+7+1
KNOWN: 7 4 2 *no S component
0 - acid splash, message, prestidigitation, dancing lights, flare*.
1 - feather fall*, shield, swift expeditious retreat, true strike*
2 - alter self, wraithstrike

 

[szilard]

Well... as a 10th level Dragon Disciple, her creature type is Dragon. This will make Alter Self fun.

Arcane Strike is often a good feat for a Dragon Disciple, but this build has no high level spells to make it really worthwhile. If you plan on advancing as an Ab Champ, it may be worth it.

BAB should be 11, not 13.

You might want to look at the Improved Familiar variants that are listed in the Complete Warrior for the Hexblade. Some of them may be worthwhile... and with this characters HP total, they won't be too squishy.

-Stuart

 

[moritheil]

Well... as a 10th level Dragon Disciple, her creature type is Dragon. This will make Alter Self fun.

That's why I picked it I'm not sure what the best dragon form is, though. There's probably something with high natural armor, but its claw and bite attacks might be weak.

Arcane Strike is often a good feat for a Dragon Disciple, but this build has no high level spells to make it really worthwhile. If you plan on advancing as an Ab Champ, it may be worth it.

I don't know . . . all those 2nd level slots are going to be powering Wraithstrike all the time. The same applies to those rods of lesser extend.

BAB should be 11, not 13.

Thanks.

You might want to look at the Improved Familiar variants that are listed in the Complete Warrior for the Hexblade. Some of them may be worthwhile... and with this characters HP total, they won't be too squishy.

-Stuart

Hmm, what kind of improved familiar would you suggest? It seems to me that ~100 hit points is still pretty squishy at 15th level; a single harm spell would be more than enough to kill it.

 

[szilard]

That's why I picked it I'm not sure what the best dragon form is, though. There's probably something with high natural armor, but its claw and bite attacks might be weak.

::nod::

In the SRD, I think you are limited to a Wyrmling Green Dragon... which, I guess, is useful for mobility (good fly speed, decent swim speed and water breathing). Everything else is either too small or too many HD. Checking out the Spawn of Tiamat from MMIV and various other things is probably worhtwhile.

Hmm, what kind of improved familiar would you suggest? It seems to me that ~100 hit points is still pretty squishy at 15th level; a single harm spell would be more than enough to kill it.

Remember that they also get your saves. A blink dog wouldn't be bad. Blinking on top of a decent hp pool and good saves makes for a decent defense. Alternately, a Pseudodragon would be useful outside of combat.

-Stuart

 

[moritheil]

::nod::

In the SRD, I think you are limited to a Wyrmling Green Dragon... which, I guess, is useful for mobility (good fly speed, decent swim speed and water breathing). Everything else is either too small or too many HD. Checking out the Spawn of Tiamat from MMIV and various other things is probably worhtwhile.

The only one I recall is the bluespawn godslayer, and those were presented first as Outsiders and later as Monstrous Humanoids. I don't think they were ever Dragon.

I suppose I could take the Draconians from DragonLance. I know I have statistics for Baaz, but I wonder if Kapaks or Bozaks are < 5 HD.

Remember that they also get your saves. A blink dog wouldn't be bad. Blinking on top of a decent hp pool and good saves makes for a decent defense. Alternately, a Pseudodragon would be useful outside of combat.

-Stuart

Those do sound like excellent possibilities, though in this particular case, Blink Dog and Pseudodragon are both good and/or chaotic, and this NPC has to be lawful neutral for preestablished story reasons. But it is excellent advice, and thanks

 

[szilard]

Those do sound like excellent possibilities, though in this particular case, Blink Dog and Pseudodragon are both good and/or chaotic, and this NPC has to be lawful neutral for preestablished story reasons. But it is excellent advice, and thanks

I'm pretty sure that you can be one step away... which would allow either Blink Dog (LG) or Pseudodragon (NG).

-Stuart

 

[Dragonwriter]

The only one I recall is the bluespawn godslayer, and those were presented first as Outsiders and later as Monstrous Humanoids. I don't think they were ever Dragon.

Actually, though godslayers are Monstrous Humanoid, they are dragonblood subtype and are considered dragons for the purpose of effects (good or bad) that relate to race.

 

[moritheil]

Aha. Thanks for the clarifications!