Help with the Haste spell

[starkad]

Ok, so...

Scene: My PC's are fighting aboard the deck of an airship in the Eberron setting. The party's shifter Barbarian/Ranger (named Kraven), who wields a throwing axe and a longsword, gets hasted by the artificer, and then gets bumrushed by about 7 Emerald Claw troops, including 2 captains... He tries to do the following, and I ruled no (explanation follows)... Did I rule correctly or incorrectly?

Kraven declares he is taking a hasted two-weapon full attack (longsword +8 melee, hand-axe +6 melee, longsword +10 melee), then take a 5ft step out of a flank.

I ruled no, and here's why: I was under the impression that the 5ft step was a part of a full-round action, and needed to be taken before the hasted attack goes off, since it was a 'plus action' from an effect.

He's arguing that the extra attack is part of the full-round attack, and that I was in error. He didn't put up too much of a fuss at the time (I have my group well schooled to "go with the flow and argue later"), and just went with it. He makes a good argument, but I want to put it out there and make sure I didn't screw him over (he ended up going unconscious due to the flanked attack next round).

Help!

 

[Someone]

I think he´s right; you may be confused by the old Haste. The 3.5 version don´t give an extra action; gives bonuses and a extra attack when you make a full attack - I don´t see that different as getting an extra attack for, say, using two weapon fighting.

 

[DanMcS]

I ruled no, and here's why: I was under the impression that the 5ft step was a part of a full-round action, and needed to be taken before the hasted attack goes off, since it was a 'plus action' from an effect.

He's arguing that the extra attack is part of the full-round attack, and that I was in error. He didn't put up too much of a fuss at the time (I have my group well schooled to "go with the flow and argue later"), and just went with it. He makes a good argument, but I want to put it out there and make sure I didn't screw him over (he ended up going unconscious due to the flanked attack next round).

You were wrong, it occurs as part of the full attack.

Even if you were right about it being an extra action, you were still wrong, since the 5' step can be taken at any point during your turn, so long as you're making no other movement. Before, after, or between attacks, if you're full-attacking.

 

[starkad]

I was afraid of that... Thanks.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Yep, you goofed. Live and learn - and then get Luvs, as they say.

 

[irdeggman]

Dan is right. In fact the 5' step can be taken between attacks when making multiple attacks.


Dan - are ready for the holiest of holy days tomorrow? Go Blue.

 

[DanMcS]

Dan - are ready for the holiest of holy days tomorrow? Go Blue.

I plan to be playing D&D all afternoon and to ignore the butt-kicking the bucks will receive. Maybe it will invite some humility down here in columbus, but more likely I'll just have to listen to a lot of sullen fans whining on monday.