Hercules in Deities and Demigods

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Glyfair!

I agree

Is there no details for Hestia? I am assuming we get the end of Heras entry, Hercules, Hermes, then the beginning of Hestias entry...?

Is she a Lesser Goddess, Divine Rank 10?

So, here is the little we have on Hera (that I haven't mentioned before).

Senses: a note at the end of this rather area states "She can block the sensing power of deities of her rank or lower at up to two remote locations at once for 16 hours."

Portfolio sense: I mentioned hers before, but she is aware of these events (marriages and cheating husbands) sixteen weeks before they occur and retains the sensation for sixteen weeks after they happen.

Automatic Actions: She can use any Cha or Int related skill as a free action if the DC is 30 or lower.

Create Magic Items: She can create any magic item whose use involves scrying or stealth.

I think Automatic Actions are related to Divine Rank, the DC always seems to be Divine Rank + 10.

 

[Upper_Krust]

I think I may have worked another thing out?

Is Hercules Charisma 24 (or 25) and Hermes Charisma 34 (or 35)? If so the DC for Divine Aura is seemingly based on Divine Rank + Cha Bonus.

So we know Divine Rank affects:

- Automatic Actions (DC 10 + Divine Rank)
- Innate Spell Levels (Level 10 + Divine Rank)
- Domain Powers (Uses per day = Divine Rank)

and possibly

- Divine Aura (DC = Divine Rank + 10 + Cha bonus)

 

[Gez]

But...

• Automatic Actions: She can use any Cha or Int related skill as a free action if the DC is 30 or lower.
• Is she a Lesser Goddess, Divine Rank 10?
• I think Automatic Actions are related to Divine Rank, the DC always seems to be Divine Rank + 10.

You probably implied a 20 somewhere instead of a 10.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Glyfair!

Some notes on Hermes (for comparison with Herc):

Thanks again!

Divine Rank: 15
Hit Dice: 20d8+140 (outsider) plus 20d6+140 (Rog) plus 20d4+140 (Wiz) (780 hp)

Certainly makes more sense.

We don't have Hera's details do we?

They don't seem to have done much with Epic Levels so far in D&Dg...?

Initiative: +24, always first (+20 Dex, +4 Improved Initiative, Supreme Initiative)

Interesting.

AC 82

How do they outlne that!?

10 (Base) + 20 (Dex) + ?

Attacks: Huge +5 speed holy quater staff +64/+64/+59/+54/+49 (other attack types are given)

Damage about 1d6+30(?)

Also shouldn't that be 6 attacks I wonder: 4 + 1 (off-hand quarterstaff) + 1 (speed)

His avatar is only has a divine rank of 7.

Which itself could be assumed to represent half (rounded down) his Divine Rank.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Gez mate!

But...

• Automatic Actions: She can use any Cha or Int related skill as a free action if the DC is 30 or lower.
• Is she a Lesser Goddess, Divine Rank 10?
• I think Automatic Actions are related to Divine Rank, the DC always seems to be Divine Rank + 10.

You probably implied a 20 somewhere instead of a 10.

Hera is actually a Greater Goddess, which I'm betting means Divine Rank 20.

 

[Glyfair]

Hermes' AC is broken down as (-1 size, +20 Dex, +15 divine, +28 natural, +10 deflection). For reference, Herc's is (+7 Dex, +5 divine, +5 natural, +10 Nemian lion skin, +7 deflection).

Remember, we are only given an actual 4 pages from D&D. You get the tail end of Hera's and the beginning of Hestias. You catch the end of Hera's spell-like abilites, her "Other Divine Powers" column, and her avatar (Divine rank 8, incidentally).

Hestia's is very brief also. You get no stats. You get what I'll call her worship stat block, her history/description, and her Dogma entry.

BTW, what I'm calling the worship stat block is like this:

Hestia
Lesser Deity
Symbol: Hearth
Home Plane: Olympus
Alignment: Neutral Good
Portfolio: Home, hearth, family
Worshipers: Commoners
Cleric Alignments: CG, LG, NG
Domains: Community, Good, Protection
Favored Weapon: Dagger

So, basically, your standard god statblock that we've seen befor.

Glyfair of Glamis

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Glyfair mate!

Thanks again so much! I am sure I am not the only one who appreciates it!

Hermes' AC is broken down as (-1 size, +20 Dex, +15 divine, +28 natural, +10 deflection).

For reference, Herc's is (+7 Dex, +5 divine, +5 natural, +10 Nemian lion skin, +7 deflection).

It seems we have found another mechanic affected by Divine Rank.

You could probably assume Divine Weapon Focus and Divine Weapon Specialisation are also Rank based.

Remember, we are only given an actual 4 pages from D&D. You get the tail end of Hera's and the beginning of Hestias.

So they attribute three columns to every deity (I do that myself ).

You catch the end of Hera's spell-like abilites, her "Other Divine Powers" column, and her avatar (Divine rank 8, incidentally).

Now thats interesting. I would have assumed they were going to have Avatars at half Divine Rank...but apparently not.

Hestia's is very brief also. You get no stats. You get what I'll call her worship stat block, her history/description, and her Dogma entry.

BTW, what I'm calling the worship stat block is like this:

Hestia
Lesser Deity
Symbol: Hearth
Home Plane: Olympus
Alignment: Neutral Good
Portfolio: Home, hearth, family
Worshipers: Commoners
Cleric Alignments: CG, LG, NG
Domains: Community, Good, Protection
Favored Weapon: Dagger

So, basically, your standard god statblock that we've seen before.

Thats pretty much how I have things as well...

...paying homage to the de facto standard presented within the FRCS.

 

[Glyfair]

What looks interesting also is the "Salient Divine Abilities"

Hermes'

Alter Form, Alter Reality, Alter Size, Arcane Mastery, Avatar, Divine Blast, Divine Celerity, Divine Shield, Divine Dodge, Divine Glibness, Divine Rogue, Divine Sneak Attack, Free Move, Gust of Wind* <see my previous post>, Supreme Initiative, Extra Domain (Good), Extra Domain (Luck), Spontaneous Wizard Spells.

Also regarding saves:

"As an intermediate deity, Hermes automatically recieves a die result of 20 on any check. He treats a 1 on a a saving throw or attack roll normally and not as an automatic failure. He is immortal."

and

"As a demigod, Hercules treats a 1 on an attack roll or saving throw normally and not as an automatic failure. He is immortal."

and

"As a greater deity, Hera automatically receives the best possible reult on any die roll she makes (including attack rolls, damage, checks and saves). She is immortal."

TTFN,
Glyfair of Glamis

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Glyfair mate!

What looks interesting also is the "Salient Divine Abilities"

Hermes'

Alter Form, Alter Reality, Alter Size, Arcane Mastery, Avatar, Divine Blast, Divine Celerity, Divine Shield, Divine Dodge, Divine Glibness, Divine Rogue, Divine Sneak Attack, Free Move, Gust of Wind* <see my previous post>, Supreme Initiative, Extra Domain (Good), Extra Domain (Luck), Spontaneous Wizard Spells.

Now some of these are very interesting, you can pretty much assume 'Divine' anything uses the Divine Rank in some fashion.

Also regarding saves:

"As an intermediate deity, Hermes automatically recieves a die result of 20 on any check. He treats a 1 on a a saving throw or attack roll normally and not as an automatic failure. He is immortal."

and

"As a demigod, Hercules treats a 1 on an attack roll or saving throw normally and not as an automatic failure. He is immortal."

and

"As a greater deity, Hera automatically receives the best possible reult on any die roll she makes (including attack rolls, damage, checks and saves). She is immortal."

I treat saves like this too, though I save things like 'automatic best die roll' for deities with the Luck portfolio etc.

Thanks again mate - your spoiling us!*

*I feel like I am at the Ambassadors Reception!

If your in a typing mood how about Hercules Feats!

 

[LordMelkor{Talos}]

Glyfair, what are avatar stats for Hermes?