Heroes #13:Duels/Dec.2008

Not that I was expecting the writers to, but:
[sblock] How about at least pretending that HRG was smart enough to check that Sylar actually died in the fire and/or otherwise making sure he's dead or mostly incapacitated? At this point it won't be a fakeout - it's par for the course [/sblock]
 

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A lot happened but in the greater scheme of things, nothing happened. Yea, bunch of secondary villians/heros died, who really cares.

Nathan is getting more powerful, not with powers but just because that is what he does and we know what that means, plus power, minus inteligence!

Peter, at least he is constant dumb.

Suresh is an idoit, who cares.

Ando - wow, a plot enhancing power! So, did you really kill Heiro in that future?

Nicki/Tracy/etc, is a gold digging slut, who cares.

Claire Bear, just dress her in a school girl outfit and go anime with her. Blood, gore, good, bad, sociopath and always cute, sort of a vorpal bunny.

Sylar! Figure you are a child from the future, your ma and pa right in front of you.

Rating: 6/10
 

A lot happened but in the greater scheme of things, nothing happened. Yea, bunch of secondary villians/heros died, who really cares.

Nathan is getting more powerful, not with powers but just because that is what he does and we know what that means, plus power, minus inteligence!

Peter, at least he is constant dumb.

Suresh is an idoit, who cares.

Ando - wow, a plot enhancing power! So, did you really kill Heiro in that future?

Nicki/Tracy/etc, is a gold digging slut, who cares.

Claire Bear, just dress her in a school girl outfit and go anime with her. Blood, gore, good, bad, sociopath and always cute, sort of a vorpal bunny.

Sylar! Figure you are a child from the future, your ma and pa right in front of you.

Rating: 6/10
Well, Sylar's father has been cast as
John Glover (Lionel Luthor from Smallville)
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And Peter...man, I don't know what to think. I thought they were trying to fix that character, then they went and re-empowered him with (apparently) the same old powers.
 

When the three were released from their prison to help get Sylar, I recognized two: Doyle (the puppetter) and Echo (from the 3-part webepisode), the third guy (with the beard) looked vaguely familiar but I have no idea who it was.... have we seen him before? If so, what was his power?


Edit: OOOOH was he the guy that Claire's bio-mom (fire girl) and HRG went to go see in that homeless area (in the past when fire girl was just joining the company), the one who turned his arm in to metal (or some such) ?
 
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From the interview concerning the return of Bryan Fuller, it appears that we won’t really see too many changes with the underlying problems concerning the structure and emphasis of the show’s writing until Episode 19/20, in mid to late March of this year.

I am also not too sure that the “end” of Volume is all that significant a line in the sand here. I expect we will be seeing significantly more continuity in episode #14 than many might prefer to see.

There are a few resets here concerning the abilities of the uber_powered that many here have complained of. To whit:

Peter Petrelli: As we all assumed, Peter regained his chameleon emo power back, but I suspect that, like Sylar’s, it has been reset. Peter starts with flight, but is no longer a time traveller. That’s not a small development. I do not think the writers of the show will be putting Peter and any (restored) Hiro back into any scenes together any time soon.

Hiro Nakamura: Hiro has lost his power. I’m not sure where they are going with this. It may be that there is some small residue of power left in him, which on its own is too small for significant time travel. However, amped by Ando, together, he and Ando might accomplish some space time continuum disruption, but on a smaller scale. Teleportation and time freeze, without extensive time travel abilities. I think it’s pretty clear given how they have deliberately nerfed Hiro’s power for pretty much all of Vol III that the writers have become uncomfortable with the implications of Hiro’s time travelling power and have decided that - for now at least – nerfing most of what he can do is in the best interest of the plot continuity of the show.

Ando: The more subtle problems that can crop up when a new power is created on the show lurks beneath the surface of Ando's new Power Amplification gig. He can’t do anything on his own, but the implications of his ability to uber up others is pretty significant and potentially troublesome for the writers in the long term. And it seems to me that these writers have demonstrated pretty clearly that they don’t write think when they are writing one hour drama on a long term basis.

Sylar: As we all know, there is no way that Sylar is actually dead. We’ll come back to him in an episode or two. The quest for his real parents will dominate his “A “ story in Vol. IV, I expect.

Meredith: Both Meredith and her brother have probably survived the collapse of the building as well...but that result was suitable sketchy in the finest comic book tradition – so I’m okay with that.

Nathan Petrelli: Odd thing is, Nathan’s pursuit of his father’s plan was pretty hard to justify. But his new spin – to be part of a Federal government plan to Gitmoize the uber_powered, is actually not that far a stretch. I’m not even sure it is “evil”. The control and containment of the Powered has been, essentially, the role of the Company to date. With both the Company and Pinehearst destroyed, we are moving to a less tolerant, more X-Men like governmental enemy of the uber_powered. A faceless force that threatens both the Heroes and Villains.

Nathan pursuing Arthur Petrelli’s plan might have been evil, given the foreknowledge of how it worked out. The new Gitmo containment protocol for the uber_powered, on the other hand, is not necessarily an evil plan. Indeed, it can be defended as a *rational* plan.

HRG: Does it not make sense that HRG would be the key recruit of Nathan Petrelli’s new Organization With Initials? That he joins it, conflicted, to protect Claire and his family from Sylar et al and from Nathan too?

Seems a natural fit to me. And HRG remains probably the best damn thing about the show. His comfortableness with morally gray, and dogged determination to save his family would work. It would give then a stable base to work from in terms of the OWithI....in theory.

Mohinder: I actually like Mohinder from season 1 and 2 and saw his humanity as the window of the normal’s view into the Heroic world. He seemed ethical at the time. It’s the Mohinder from Season III, post injection I wasn’t much of a fan of. Still, he’s not only been cured – he’s ALSO been uberfied now. We don’t know exactly what this change will bring to us, but we do know that it will be something. I expect they will be dragging that one out for a little while, to give us a new “Origin/Discovery” tale during Vol IV.

Tracy: They have not given us the third incarnation of Nikki yet, but the way Tracy is going, that can’t be long as it seems that Tracy is quickly overstaying her welcome. It might be in everyone’s interest if they just let Ali Larter go on her merry way to some other program.

Matt and Daphne: The one bright spot in the show this Vol III has been that these two have worked out pretty well. Let em be and don’t burden them too much with the travails of normalcy.
 
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Here's a shakedown of my thoughts on Heroes after Season 3:

[sblock]Good:
Hiro depowered. I like Hiro's character, but his powers were playing havoc with any kind of believable storyline. If it was just teleporting and freezing time, that'd be okay. Time travel moves it from "powerful ability" to "you ALWAYS have to account for this in any plot." In any given situation, there was this dangling question; why doesn't Hiro just stop this? I dunno where they'll take him now, but at least the constant time traveling has ended. Arthur had it, but died. Peter had it, but lost it. Now the power's gone. Gone gone gone.

Syler evil again. As many have noted, Syler doesn't work as a dark hero. His moral quandry is okay as a sort of background element, but he works best as a villain, and this episode (indeed, this season) proves it. Indeed, in some ways he's even MORE of a villain now, since he's embraced that wholeheartedly and isn't just about stealing powers now. This could be good, IF they develop a good villainous agenda for him...searching out his parents won't last long, but could be good development. Sooner or later though, he needs to start diabolical schemes if he's really going to wear the Iron Mask of Doom.

Daphne. I like her. She's the sort of hero I'd play in a Heroes RPG. :) She seems a bit young for Matt...but not scandalously so. They seem good for each other too, and it's NICE to have a relationship that's not tainted with hideous deception and betrayal and angst. I hope to see much more of them in Fugitives.

Nathan as bad guy. In season 1, we saw Nathan as someone who was willing to say the ends justify the means. That got lost in the hurlyburly in season 2, and I think season 3 sort of botched Nathan's twist from good to bad...but I think it's cool he finally got to where he is. This is a good place for him, dramawise. They need to develop him as this sort of sympathetic villain (contrasted with Syler's pure malevolence) in the vein of Magneto, perhaps. The bad guy you can't just kill.

Bad:
Angst Clair. It is my HOPE that Claire ends season 3 having matured and perhaps having lost her 'innocence' as far as people go...but not having become the 'harcore Claire' we saw in the various glimpses of the future. I can't buy hardcore Claire. Maybe it's not too much to ask of me...but I just can't square "badass soulless killer" with Hayden's adorable face. She does okay acting it...but even with slicked back hair and makeup, she is physically incapable of being intimidating.

Tracy/Nikki/Barbara. Admittedly, Barbara's an unknown quantity here, but frankly, none of these characters has ever really added anything to the plot of any season, IMO. It's not Ali's fault. The writers just keep including her even though her stories are essentially irrelevant and expendable. They need to either make her a -real participant- in the events, and not just an occasional throwaway presence...or stop using her.

The Uncertain:
Ando with powers. I'm not so sure this has the wreckage potential of time travel (I suspect not, but I may be surprised), but it concerns me for a couple of reasons. One, it means Hiro/Ando isn't being written out, most likely...which makes it increasingly likely Hiro will be repowered. Two, no cast thinning and another storyline to keep up with. Three, super-boosting other people's powers -does- have some breakage potential... Now, it has drama potential too (Syler kidnaps Ando to use him as a booster anyone?) and the idea of reversing the dynamic between Ando and Hiro...with Hiro now being Andi's normal sidekick...has some entertaining possibilities. For a little while. I just hope they don't obsess on it.

Peter with powers. It's been reset, it seems...which is good. He'll quickly regain his status as "the guy who can try to fight Syler," I expect...but someone has to be that guy. At least he won't be getting invisibility or time travel again. No Elle-Lightning either. Might work out. [/sblock]
 

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