Heroes #21:Into Asylum/Season 3/2009

[Brown Jenkin]

Given that one sister is named Angela and has been portrayed almost devilish in actions, maybe the other sister has a wicked sounding name (Demona? - Gargoyle's reference there, don't mind me) and is overly nice

Probably more like Lilith.

 

[Steel_Wind]

I thought it was an excellent episode and I really enjoyed it.

It had decent character development. Sylar was clever and engaging: "he's a better you than you" et al was quite entertaining.

Angela and Peter's bit was good char dev as well and reasonably written - for both of them.

Claire and Nathan was a touch boring, but they seemed to be setting up Claire as a young woman now and transitioning her to an A story line and not super high school student.

So while I appreciate that there was a realtive lack of action, I enjoyed it all the same.

 

[Arnwyn]

Pretty much what most everyone else said: just not a very enjoyable episode.

Danko, especially, makes no sense whatsoever. He hates the people with powers, but teams up with one of the worst? Pffft - the show's never made any reasonable attempt to make that a believable action.

Twirl your moustache a bit more, Danko.

 

[Brown Jenkin]

Pretty much what most everyone else said: just not a very enjoyable episode.

Danko, especially, makes no sense whatsoever. He hates the people with powers, but teams up with one of the worst? Pffft - the show's never made any reasonable attempt to make that a believable action.

Twirl your moustache a bit more, Danko.

Yes, but the show has always consisted of people playing catch with the idiot ball. Don't forget that before Syler, Danko interacted with Suresh and his Super-Stupidity power that is contagious.

 

[Mark]

Pretty much what most everyone else said: just not a very enjoyable episode.

By my count it's about half and half with several not expressing one way or another.

Danko, especially, makes no sense whatsoever. He hates the people with powers, but teams up with one of the worst? Pffft - the show's never made any reasonable attempt to make that a believable action.

Twirl your moustache a bit more, Danko.

It's a classic deal with the devil, which he'll rationalize as something he can overcome in the end by finishing off Syler himself. Naturally, it gives the writers free rein to have it blow up in Danko's face. But it brings more of the main characters into the same storyline, which has been the most often posted complaint (that there are too many subplots) that I have read.

 

[Arnwyn]

By my count it's about half and half with several not expressing one way or another.

*shrug* Sure. Never been much for pedantry.

It's a classic deal with the devil, which he'll rationalize as something he can overcome in the end by finishing off Syler himself.

That's what it looks like. Not that it makes any sense given what the show has shown us so far, AFAIC (which I already covered in my post).

But it brings more of the main characters into the same storyline, which has been the most often posted complaint (that there are too many subplots) that I have read.

We'll see how that goes. I'm not convinced that trading an annoyance right now for 'possible future improvements' is something that's good.

 

[Mark]

*shrug* Sure. Never been much for pedantry.

That's pedestalry.

That's what it looks like. Not that it makes any sense given what the show has shown us so far, AFAIC (which I already covered in my post).

I believe you mean boast. However, unless you put yourself in the Hunter's shoes and realize he's overseen a plane crash that lost everyone captured, multiple deaths by freezing, and his own home infiltrated more than once. I doubt he feels very secure in his performance.

We'll see how that goes. I'm not convinced that trading an annoyance right now for 'possible future improvements' is something that's good.

Now you've mispelt ignorance.

 

[coyote6]

Danko, especially, makes no sense whatsoever. He hates the people with powers, but teams up with one of the worst? Pffft - the show's never made any reasonable attempt to make that a believable action.

Possibly the greatest failing of it all is that Danko has this mad, Senator Kelly-esque hate of "people with abilities"*, and the show has never explained why. Not even a clue. "These people are dangerous, so I hate them." What? Huh? So, Danko hates people based on what a snooty senator tells him? Awesome; let me get my senator to tell him that cabbages are dangerous, and give him some papers that say that, and maybe get a drug addict comic book artist to draw some pictures of dangerous cabbage. Then Danko can waste weeks of time and millions of dollars of taxpayer money hunting down cabbages.

*(The show needs to come up with some danged slang for the supers already. Call them supers, powers, metas, mutants, muties, Tangos, Papas, whatever; no bunch of soldiers is going to spend weeks chasing a group of people and not come up with a slang term for them!)

Nothing has happened on the show, nor has anything even been hinted at, that backs up his extremist position. Yes, it's supposed to be a metaphor for attitudes on terrorism, but there have been no mass casualty events in Heroes, so the metaphor is mostly functioning as a metaphor for the writing's Epic Failure. There have been many prophecies of horrors to come, but none of those have happened, and nobody but the PWAs themselves have seen or have any proof of these prophecies. The biggest body count in Heroes history apparently belongs to Sylar -- so Danko's current alliance w/Sylar makes Danko an even bigger idiot.

Idiot villains + incompetent heroes + no humor == not very interesting show.

(Idiot villains & incompetent heroes can work, if it's funny; as evidence, see Venture Bros. And Venture Bros has deeper, more interesting, more consistent characters than Heroes at this point.)

 

[Arnwyn]

That's pedestalry.

I believe you mean boast.

Now you've mispelt ignorance.

Well, you're completely wrong (as best as I can tell from your incoherent post), so I guess we're going going to have to agree to disagree. Sorry.

coyote6 has it right. Bang-on, actually, as to how I see Danko and his inexplicable behavior. Great post, coyote6.

 

[Mark]

Possibly the greatest failing of it all is that Danko has this mad, Senator Kelly-esque hate of "people with abilities"*, and the show has never explained why.

Seems obvious that he fears them because they could make him obsolete in his profession and his whole life is about his profession. He's not politically motivated, he's personally motivated.