Heroes, Inc.: Kryptgarden

[DM_Matt]

I have been able to pass circles and wards against evil with ease. The only ones that might pose a problem are those specifically warded against demons. Though redeemed, I still bear that particular taint. Naverone said, with a hint of tiredness at the last.

"Murdoch should also be visable and nearby. He's a powerful caster in his own right." Alethia said.

"He shoud be ready to strike from hiding," Maggie suggests. "We dont want to LOOK like we are about to gang up on him. But why take him alive? His power is in his voice, It will be nearly impossible to question him, let alone hold him. You dont capture the ancient, civilization-destroying evil, you destroy the ancient, civilization-destroying evil, or perhaps capture his soul so that he is not resurrected. In fact, I bleieve we should prepare a gem to capture his sould upon his death, and keep it somewhere safe, so that Shar does not merely send him back. Or, alternatively, we can capture the next soul-powered device we find instead of destroying it, and feed the soul gem to it to convert him into energy and ensure his soul is forever destroyed."

 

[kirinke]

Naverone chuckled. I have a rather better idea, one that will suit our purposes equally well. The spell that turned me, could also turn him, given a sufficently high enough caster. If it works, the lords of heaven would have a very powerful weapon at their disposal. All you need is a diamond worth at least 10,000 gold and a caster willing and powerful enough to cast it.

"Maggie is right though. Even if we did manage to capture him, how long do you think we could hold him? Not very long at that and he would be a constant danger to any jailor." Alethia looked apologetically at Timrin. "About the only thing we can do is trap is soul somehow, either with the sanctify the wicked spell or by some other similar spell."

 

[Steve Gorak]

"Murdoch should also be visable and nearby. He's a powerful caster in his own right." Alethia said.

Murdoch nods at the accolade: "in order to absorb hi magic, I need to touch him. If I am to hide, I can dimension door at an moment's notice and be right next to him."Taking a breath and sighing "Ancient evil often implies powerful evil. We should not underestimate this Namer."

 

[Hawkeye]

"I would suggest no more than one other be openly present. Being an exalted being I think Shando makes sense. Everyone else should hide."

Shando blushes slightly, "I certainly don't consider myself exalted by any means of the word. I have simply been blessed to serve Ilamter. Regardless, I will certainly stand by your side. I am troubled by the idea that we, as mortals, speak of destroying a soul. What you are contemplating doing to that soul, is no different then what are foes are doing. If we do decide to capture the soul, can we leave it up to the gods to decide its fate?"

Hawkeye

 

[DM_Matt]

Shando blushes slightly, "I certainly don't consider myself exalted by any means of the word. I have simply been blessed to serve Ilamter. Regardless, I will certainly stand by your side. I am troubled by the idea that we, as mortals, speak of destroying a soul. What you are contemplating doing to that soul, is no different then what are foes are doing. If we do decide to capture the soul, can we leave it up to the gods to decide its fate?"

Hawkeye

Maggie returns:

"As you no doubt know, monk, when a soul dies, its own patron god decides its fate. If we kill im, he will be sent back to Shar, who no doubt would send him back in some form, such as by having him reborn with his old knowledge and them perhaps stolen away and aged by Cronos, or she could turn him into a demon. It seems that he is one of Shar's most powerful and loyal servants. If we kill him, we may meet him again next month with all the powers he has now, but as a balor rather than a mutated human."

 

[Hawkeye]

Maggie returns:

"As you no doubt know, monk, when a soul dies, its own patron god decides its fate. If we kill im, he will be sent back to Shar, who no doubt would send him back in some form, such as by having him reborn with his old knowledge and them perhaps stolen away and aged by Cronos, or she could turn him into a demon. It seems that he is one of Shar's most powerful and loyal servants. If we kill him, we may meet him again next month with all the powers he has now, but as a balor rather than a mutated human."

"Though I don't have the in depth training in theology that others do, I am well aware how the afterlife works. I am still averse to capturing a soul and then using it to power a magical device, no matter how evil that soul is. That is necromancy. Necormancy is what our foes are using against us. We do not defeat our foes by becoming them! If we must capture the soul, then I have no problem doing so. However, I will not stand by and let a soul be used to power a magical device. Now, when I was speaking of letting the gods decide his fate, I felt it was a foregone conclusion that Shar wouldn't be involved, since, as far as we can tell, we have no worshippers of Shar among our group."

Hawkeye

 

[DM_Matt]

"Though I don't have the in depth training in theology that others do, I am well aware how the afterlife works. I am still averse to capturing a soul and then using it to power a magical device, no matter how evil that soul is. That is necromancy. Necormancy is what our foes are using against us. We do not defeat our foes by becoming them! If we must capture the soul, then I have no problem doing so. However, I will not stand by and let a soul be used to power a magical device. Now, when I was speaking of letting the gods decide his fate, I felt it was a foregone conclusion that Shar wouldn't be involved, since, as far as we can tell, we have no worshippers of Shar among our group."

Hawkeye

Maggie responds "Using it to power a device is simply one way we know to destroy a soul. I doubt any of us have any intention of using the soul for personal gain, but conveting it to energy and then using that energy may be the only way to ensure that it never returns to Shar."

 

[Hawkeye]

Maggie responds "Using it to power a device is simply one way we know to destroy a soul. I doubt any of us have any intention of using the soul for personal gain, but conveting it to energy and then using that energy may be the only way to ensure that it never returns to Shar."

"It is still wrong to use it that way. Powering things with souls is the essence of necromancy. I am fine with capturing the soul, but not using it in that matter. Lets see what Tyr, Helm, Ilmater or Selune have to say about the matter. I have to wonder how Mystra would feel too.

Hawkeye

 

[DM_Matt]

"It is still wrong to use it that way. Powering things with souls is the essence of necromancy. I am fine with capturing the soul, but not using it in that matter. Lets see what Tyr, Helm, Ilmater or Selune have to say about the matter. I have to wonder how Mystra would feel too.

Hawkeye

Maggie puts off the argument for later "Well, regardless, we will trap it and then we can figure out what to do with it. Redeem, capture, destroy, whatever. I will prepare the item to receive him upon his death. "

 

[frostrune]

Timrin frowned through the entire exchange; from the very moment in fact when Maggie mentioned he should be killed not taken prisoner.

"Shando has said his piece and I respect his wisdom. I am uncomfortable with using his soul or destroying it. It seems a vile action regardless. Histroy is rife with tales of better men who have fallen by commiting evil deeds under only the best of intentions."

"I am also troubled by our trap becoming an assassination. I thought taking him alive would give us an opportunity to learn a great deal about our enemies? Agents of law regularly entice criminals into traps, this I have no problem with. But I cannot, in good conscience, lock the door behind the guy then cut him to ribbons. I must insist we offer him an opportunity to surrender peacefully before it comes to blows."

"Please do not question my loyalty to this City or Lady Aleena. I understand the dangers and the inherant loss of advantage by not immediately hitting him with everything that we've got."

"I also understand the temptation of this appearing to be a noble act. It is not. Many times the high road is not the easiest means of travel."