Heroes, Inc.: Kryptgarden

frostrune said:
Timrin frowned through the entire exchange; from the very moment in fact when Maggie mentioned he should be killed not taken prisoner.

"Shando has said his piece and I respect his wisdom. I am uncomfortable with using his soul or destroying it. It seems a vile action regardless. Histroy is rife with tales of better men who have fallen by commiting evil deeds under only the best of intentions."

"I am also troubled by our trap becoming an assassination. I thought taking him alive would give us an opportunity to learn a great deal about our enemies? Agents of law regularly entice criminals into traps, this I have no problem with. But I cannot, in good conscience, lock the door behind the guy then cut him to ribbons. I must insist we offer him an opportunity to surrender peacefully before it comes to blows."

"Please do not question my loyalty to this City or Lady Aleena. I understand the dangers and the inherant loss of advantage by not immediately hitting him with everything that we've got."

"I also understand the temptation of this appearing to be a noble act. It is not. Many times the high road is not the easiest means of travel."

Aleena says "You sound like my father. You remind me a lot of him, really. Then again, my father is dead. I just dont see any alternative to his destruction. He is a being of evil. He has not been truly human for a long time. Even if we do imprison him somehow, he will escape because he will be forgotten. We will only be able to mentally bridge this version of him and the other one for so long, as unused potential dimensions fade away or diverge. As far as consulting deities, would not Selune be insulted that you dare ask if it is permissible to destroy one of Shar's mightiest minions?"
 

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"She would only be insulted if we achieve that destruction through evil acts." Alethia said firmly. "I think that Naverone's idea is best. Sanctify the wicked would remove him as a threat and we could possibly question him through the diamond. Of that I am not sure. If we use that spell, we will prevent Shar from ever being able to reclaim him, for in death, he will return to whatever deity claims him upon redemption."

ooc:
Are any of the bane sword's keyed to this Namer guy?
 

kirinke said:
"She would only be insulted if we achieve that destruction through evil acts." Alethia said firmly. "I think that Naverone's idea is best. Sanctify the wicked would remove him as a threat and we could possibly question him through the diamond. Of that I am not sure. If we use that spell, we will prevent Shar from ever being able to reclaim him, for in death, he will return to whatever deity claims him upon redemption."

ooc:
Are any of the bane sword's keyed to this Namer guy?

Aleena comments "Finding the diamond won't be a problem, but finding a cleric on short notice willing to make the necessary sacrifice to use that magic will be extremely difficult...Unless we want to do this another day, after we've done more research." (It costs a level)

(There is no banesword for the Namer)
 

DM_Matt said:
Aleena says "You sound like my father. You remind me a lot of him, really. Then again, my father is dead. I just dont see any alternative to his destruction. He is a being of evil. He has not been truly human for a long time. Even if we do imprison him somehow, he will escape because he will be forgotten. We will only be able to mentally bridge this version of him and the other one for so long, as unused potential dimensions fade away or diverge. As far as consulting deities, would not Selune be insulted that you dare ask if it is permissible to destroy one of Shar's mightiest minions?"

Timrin's jaw sets and his shoulders slump as he exhales slowly. He <mentally> retreats a step from the conversation lost in thought.

He half-hears the exchange between Aleena and Alethia, until Aleena says...

"Finding the diamond won't be a problem, but finding a cleric on short notice willing to make the necessary sacrifice to use that magic will be extremely difficult...Unless we want to do this another day, after we've done more research."

"I would make that sacrifice," Timrin interjects.
 

frostrune said:
Timrin's jaw sets and his shoulders slump as he exhales slowly. He <mentally> retreats a step from the conversation lost in thought.

He half-hears the exchange between Aleena and Alethia, until Aleena says...



"I would make that sacrifice," Timrin interjects.

"Perhaps you would, but you are not sufficiently powerful to do so. By the way, do you all understand how that spel actually works? There is a good reason it takes a year to function. Demons are beings of pure evil. They are actually made of it. The spell gradually destroys every last bit of their body and soul and replaces it. Some philosophers would say that this in fact is an act of permanently destroying the being as well, with the new sanctified creature merely being a different entity based on the origional. And speaking of that, if the bad guys manage to get the gem back from us before that year is up, they can release him."

(It wont be possible to find a level 18+ cleric in the next few hours that has that spell prepared and is willing to use it. Its not like its sometihng thats in their typical daily repitoire of spells. Trapping him and figuring out what to do later is still possible. It seems that offering surrender is also fine with everyone.)
 

DM_Matt said:
"Perhaps you would, but you are not sufficiently powerful to do so. By the way, do you all understand how that spel actually works? There is a good reason it takes a year to function. Demons are beings of pure evil. They are actually made of it. The spell gradually destroys every last bit of their body and soul and replaces it. Some philosophers would say that this in fact is an act of permanently destroying the being as well, with the new sanctified creature merely being a different entity based on the origional. And speaking of that, if the bad guys manage to get the gem back from us before that year is up, they can release him."

With deep sadness in his eyes Timrin looks at Aleena but speaks to everyone, "We cannot wait, we must do this now. I will help.. and face the consequences should they come."
 

A trap the soul spell is probably our best bet then. Naverone, sounding as unhappy about it as Timrin, Alethia and Shando. We cannot kill him, we cannot simply capture and hold him by any mundane or normal magical means. And this way, we would have the time to find a cleric willing to cast that sanctify spell. the demon said, his voice heavy with misgivings. I do not like it, but the Lady Aleena and Maggie are right in this case. It is our only real option. he looked at the ladies. In order for this to work, you need a gem valuable enough to hold him. And that value is based on how powerful this creature is. I would go overboard and get the most valuable gem you can possibly get your hands on. At least 50,000gp worth. he advised.

"We will all face those same consequences Timrin. No one will be alone or blameless in this," Alethia said, her eyes glowing and her body limned with ghostly flames, reflecting both hers and Naverone's inner turmoil at the decision. "All we can do is ask for forgiviness later."
 
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I am thinking that Selune would be very interested in aquiring the Namer for her own ends, especially if we wrap him up nice in a trap the soul gem. :) :cool:
 

The plan is put into action, and within the hour, Professor Xavil is escourted in by the guards.

Alethia is sitting on a chair, her hands behind her back, but not tied...they instead hold her mace. There is a magic circle around her. Flanking her is Timrin, sword drawn, and Shando. Behind her are Aleena and Maggie. Murdoch, Fin, Arundel, Dyria, and Barnak are hiding behind bookshelves.

When the guards leave, Aleena waves her hand. The door shuts violently and a wall of force springs into existance, as it always does when this room is sealed.

Everyone steps out of hiding (I assume, if you dont, tell me), but keeps partial cover. Aleena shouts "Its over, Namer. Cronos gave you up. The room is sealed and you are surrounded and outnumbered. Now surrender or die!"

The Namer is visibly shocked and enraged. He answers back "I know you speak the truth. Only Cronos can pierce my disguise. Spare me and I will deliver Cronos into your hands. I can tell you where he is. I can tell you his plans. To start, I will reveal that he is going to move his domain from its pocket dimension outside of time into this world, creating an enormous island in the inner sea. It is for that reason that he is clearing the clearing away the islands that exist there now. I can tell you far more, of course, but only in return for my freedom."
 

"There can be no freedom for anyone if the Twice damned gain dominance over Toril Namer." Alethia said severely, bringing her arms in front of her, mace in hand as she ignited the Nimbus of Light around her at the same time, the luminous white flames dancing over her skin in a eerie manner.

We cannot assure your freedom Namer. But we can grant your safety. We can deliver you to the Twice Damned enemies, the Lady Selune or the Lord Helm would be your best choice. In either of their hands, you would be safe from both Cronos and the rest of the Twice Damned. The decision of course is up to you. Naverone rumbled and Alethia's eyes went to glowing, lurid pinpricks of flames surrounded by white, which is in turn surrounded by inky blackness.

"At least in our hands, you will not suffer the delights of the Twice Damned dungeons or whatever it is they use." Alethia said dryly.
 
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