Heroes of the Feywild Speculation

Camelot

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Thread for general speculation, hopes, some discussion, but no arguments!

I think the most certain thing we'll see is a druid build, probably a controller and probably a shapeshifter, but built differently than the original one, Essentials-style. We might see some other primal classes getting the Essentials treatment; barbarians are most likely since they are the most defined in D&D history.

I'd like to see a bard build as well. I think the Feywild is a find place for bards; it's got eladrin music, flashiness that hides something possibly sinister. The warden also needs a new build in my opinion, and could fit in this book.

For the power sources in the book, I wonder if it will stick to arcane and primal, or if they will come up with a fey power source? Probably not, but I think that it could stand on its own as a power source in a different core world.

And of course there's the speculation about the werewolf, but I don't think it will be there. The vampire did open that door, and I would like to see it and wouldn't mind it in HotF, but I don't think it will be there. Call it primal instinct.
 

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I think some sort of bard build would be excellent, maybe one that had a different flavor than that of a leader. I also think that this is a great time for them to roll out a fix for the Seeker as well.

But i think the more awesome thing to do would be to find a way to incorporate the arcane power source into classes that are not arcane inclined, kind of like the Eladrin Knight or how shadow powers in HoS were never quite shadow on their own. This could flavor up fun old fashioned things like arcane archers (Rangers) Spellthieves (Rogues) or battlemages (fighters) by giving them a few interchangable at wills or encounters that could allow some double dipping without the feat heavy multiclass powerswap (or the complexities of having the right abilities). But only as a taste, nothing that will be game breaking or trivialize the concept of multiclass feats.
 

No more god damn wizard builds.

No more.

That's all I ask. I just want the book to give support to something that needs it. Seekers, Runepriests, some new classes or whatever. Just no more Wizards, Clerics, Fighters, Rogues, Rangers or whatever for the love of god. Otherwise, I just want a book with good well thought out new mechanics and options. Oh and new races that don't have pigeon holing racial penalties.
 

Also gnome stuff, gnomes need love! Something along the lines of an arcane trickster would be interesting, maybe even a gnome specific rogue or thief build not too unlike the Eladrin Knight build. Maybe even a gnome seeker, with slings? Oh i got it, a thrown weapon build with gnome hooked hammers!
 

I'd love to see the more feywild linked races like Gnomes and Wilden to get some racial support (could use it as well). It would bring back hope the Shade/Vryloka might get some racial support in future (not in this book of course). Especially the shade, who seriously needs something good to come its way.

I don't really mind what they do so long as it's well thought out, mechanically sound and adds to classes that could use support. Another book full of mage and cleric (warpriest) options is going to spell the end of me buying all future PC orientated supplements from Wizards. On the other hand, I am excited that once we get beyond Heroes of the Feywild we might have some awesome Feywild like box like Gloomwrought.

Now I will be all over that like a fat chick at an all chocolate muffin buffet.
 

Man if they're releasing a Feywild book like Gloomwrought, and they show previews that make it look of the same quality, I'm pre-ordering that bad boy.
 

I hope they take the opportunity to provide some support for the classic Seeker, rather than just releasing an essentialized version and calling it done (ala the Executioner).
 

A question for everyone who's posting to the effect of, "I hope it has content for AEDU classes instead of support for the Essentials base classes we have now":

You know that's basically not going to happen, right? You're just posting an "I wish" and not an "I expect", right?

Please?

Because otherwise... geez... you are going to be very sad six months from now. :(
 

No more god damn wizard builds.

No more.

That's all I ask. I just want the book to give support to something that needs it. Seekers, Runepriests, some new classes or whatever. Just no more Wizards, Clerics, Fighters, Rogues, Rangers or whatever for the love of god. Otherwise, I just want a book with good well thought out new mechanics and options. Oh and new races that don't have pigeon holing racial penalties.
We need the transmuter, sorry...
 

We don't need anything to do with Wizards. Or fighters (or clerics) for that matter. It's time for a book to give needed support to the "forgotten" classes of 4E. There is nothing wrong with the numerous options for wizards and fighters and all the other over-supported classes in 4E that exists already - plenty wrong with other classes that much needed support could fix.

Or just coming up with something new. In fairness the dual role class they have spoken about sounds like that and if the pull it off, the book could be very interesting!
A question for everyone who's posting to the effect of, "I hope it has content for AEDU classes instead of support for the Essentials base classes we have now":
I am pretty aware I will most likely be disappointed here. I fully expect the book to have yet more bloody mage builds - that is all wizards seem to publish these days - probably half-ass in a cleric of some sort in there and ignore everything that has been ignored for over a year now. On the other hand, they could surprise me and not do that. Unfortunately I doubt it will be the case.

What would be awesome though regardless is if we get a Winter/Autumn build for the Sentinel. It would be DOUBLY awesome to get an actual leader/controller power to power-swap (I know, options in an essentials class? Hahaha, I know right!?) replace the incredibly bland and (after heroic tier) extremely weak combined attack (or just errata combined attacks damage to scale properly and remain relevant in paragon onwards). If the dual role class works out (which apparently isn't the werewolf?) that could be exciting as well.

But based on Heroes of Shadow, I am not expecting much :(
 
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