Heroes Season 1(#11)---12/04/06-'FALLOUT' Mid-Season Cliffhanger

[DonTadow]

Agreed, Lost has too many and you don't see soem for weeks but I never feel that way about Heroes.

So is Peter ill (like fever etc?) what up with pale coughing Peter?

That's what I love. Whosever said sylar has lost his mystery is still caught on lost's timeline of revealing something every 30 episodes.

We still don't know what sylar's exact power is, we know that he has an ability to "fix thing". We also don't know the other people sylar killed, I believe there are six other people, meaning he has seven powers. Right now I only know of the fix thing and the telepathy thing.

Thanks for bringing up the fact that eden killed herself. I missed that part. I was under the impression that sylar did it on purpose.

 

[DonTadow]

Great question. I have a few possibilities, and one observation:

1) Peter has internal bleeding that didn't corrected itself before his Claire-bear powers wore off. However, he met with Claire a 2nd time, so who knows.

2) It seems that he got sick when Evil-Dad entered the cell. Perhaps the sickness is from something from Evil-Dad? An interesting notion with very little to back it up.

3) It's radiation sickness, picked up from Radioactive-Ted. Is Radioactive-Ted in the next cell over? Did Sylar get Radioactive-Ted, and pass Ted on to Peter?

4) He's temporarily overwhelmed by absorbing all of Sylar's powers.

The observation: this gives Nathan the chance to bring Peter back to New York without Peter's permission.

What is number 4 Alex.
1. He's seen clair two times, that should be enough to correct himself.
2. He was six sick before that. When he woke up from the dream? he had a cough.
3. Possible. We assume that radioactive ted was broken out by the brotherhood, but it could have been that sylar tracked him down and took his powers off screen.
4. This is my choice. Peter absorbed 7 powers at least at one time. The last few episodes have been silently showing the heroes limitations. Peters could very well be he is only suppose to absorb one at a time.
5. In the vision, oddly enough, Peter didn't appear to have any one elses power, only ted's. Yet all the other heroes were near him.
6. Why stay in the middle of the street and blow up. Why not fly away, or make yourself impervious like clair, or teleport away.

Anyone got a feeling that their going to be fighting dinosaurs next season.

 

[Krafus]

Great question. I have a few possibilities, and one observation:

1) Peter has internal bleeding that didn't corrected itself before his Claire-bear powers wore off. However, he met with Claire a 2nd time, so who knows.

2) It seems that he got sick when Evil-Dad entered the cell. Perhaps the sickness is from something from Evil-Dad? An interesting notion with very little to back it up.

3) It's radiation sickness, picked up from Radioactive-Ted. Is Radioactive-Ted in the next cell over? Did Sylar get Radioactive-Ted, and pass Ted on to Peter?

4) He's temporarily overwhelmed by absorbing all of Sylar's powers.

The observation: this gives Nathan the chance to bring Peter back to New York without Peter's permission.

Number 3 is the one that makes the most sense to me (although I think they would have shown Ted if he was in a nearby cell). If it was 1 (internal bleeding), then I'd have to wonder why Peter didn't heal it when he mimicked her power after his fall, or right then and there when she visited him in his cell. Or maybe he has to consciously decide to mimic other people's power - he didn't do it in his cell because he was unaware he was seriously sick.

 

[Umbran]

What is number 4 Alex.
5. In the vision, oddly enough, Peter didn't appear to have any one elses power, only ted's. Yet all the other heroes were near him.

Didn't appear to have? How many of the other characters appear to have their own power when it isn't operational? You can't tell just by looking at them, you know.

6. Why stay in the middle of the street and blow up. Why not fly away, or make yourself impervious like clair, or teleport away.

First off, Claire is not "impervious". In fact, she gets injured on a regular basis. She just heals up quickly.

As to why not do other things - it is vary difficult to choose a proper course of action when you don't know what's going on. A moment of indecision is quite normal for human beings. Peter gets powers when he's near others, but that doesn't mean he knows how to use or control them. That scene looked very much like him getting Radioactive Ted's power (though Ted wasn't on screen), and him not knowing how to turn the darned thing off...

Now, the real question is - where is the dream thing coming from? Is it innate to Peter, or is he picking it up from someone else?

I am going to guess that Peter is misinterpreting - he isn't the one responsible for the Big Boom. Why? Because of the empty cars. Aside from the heroes and a couple non-powered attendants, the streets were packed with abandoned cars - people had already been evacuated, meaning there was a threat there before Peter...

nyone got a feeling that their going to be fighting dinosaurs next season.

Woohoo! Hot Samurai on Dinosaur action, here we come!

 

[mmu1]

Maybe not in a literal sense, but it is still metaphorical cannibalism - killing another and taking their power into yourself. I hope, that they never actually show Sylar acquiring a power, so that the question of mechanism is left a bit open...

Well, yeah - but it's not like anyone was questioning that.

Though I had said before that I believed Sylar would simply use his powers to absorb those of others, and the head-cutting was just a sideshow... and I'm just happy to see my pet theory gaining credibility.

Not that there aren't holes in it, still... If Sylar can modify his own DNA, and that's how he absorbs those powers (I'm basing this on what Bennet had said to Sylar), then why would he need to examine the brains? You'd think any cell would do... Unless he modifies his genes to get the biological means to use the power, and examines the brain to gain insight into what it is and how it works. On the other hand, genetics pretty clearly work just a little differently in the "Heroes" world than in our own, and I probably should stick to my established policy of not overthinking it...

 

[mmu1]

As to why not do other things - it is vary difficult to choose a proper course of action when you don't know what's going on. A moment of indecision is quite normal for human beings. Peter gets powers when he's near others, but that doesn't mean he knows how to use or control them. That scene looked very much like him getting Radioactive Ted's power (though Ted wasn't on screen), and him not knowing how to turn the darned thing off...

That whole scene was like a dream - and as such, like many dreams, symbolic and out of his conscious control.

You've got Claire in her cheerleader uniform, Mohinder in a cab, Matt - who's been suspended from the force - running around Manhattan in an LA cop's uniform... None of it is necessarily an accurate and literal representation of reality (past or present) any more than his dream of talking to his dying patient and then flying out the window was. It's just a confused, dream-like message.

The fact the city was empty doesn't mean it was evacuated, either - it can very well just be a way of (either on the part of the director, or Peter's subconscious mind) eliminating the background clutter and saying "These are the people who are going to be important."

Or the producers didn't feel like dealing with huge amounts of extras when they didn't need to.

 

[Taelorn76]

Well, yeah - but it's not like anyone was questioning that.

Though I had said before that I believed Sylar would simply use his powers to absorb those of others, and the head-cutting was just a sideshow... and I'm just happy to see my pet theory gaining credibility.

Not that there aren't holes in it, still... If Sylar can modify his own DNA, and that's how he absorbs those powers (I'm basing this on what Bennet had said to Sylar), then why would he need to examine the brains? You'd think any cell would do... Unless he modifies his genes to get the biological means to use the power, and examines the brain to gain insight into what it is and how it works. On the other hand, genetics pretty clearly work just a little differently in the "Heroes" world than in our own, and I probably should stick to my established policy of not overthinking it...

If you remember what Dr. Suresh said last week about the brain being the part of the body that controled every thing. I think you are on to some thing that Sylar examines their brains to one see what is different in them to give them their power(s), and two learn from their brains how to control said powers.

 

[Umbran]

That whole scene was like a dream - and as such, like many dreams, symbolic and out of his conscious control.

You've got Claire in her cheerleader uniform, Mohinder in a cab, Matt - who's been suspended from the force - running around Manhattan in an LA cop's uniform...

Why would he put Matt in an LA cop's uniform, when he met Matt in Texas, with an FBI agent? In terms of subconscious imagry that one doesn't seem reasonable. And while Peter has met Ando, right now I can only recall him seeing future Hiro. Why would Peter's subconscious cast these people in ways he's never seen them before? And, I don't recall Peter ever seeing Issac's painting of the Exploding Man. Why dream of that same image?

Peter is getting information from somewhere. While some of it may not be literal, there's no reason to take some bits of the information over other bits.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

The dream is not based on what Peter knowsn, but images that fall into his brain from the future.

As for the episode, I felt it was a weak cliff hanger.

And Bennett is not as smart as he thinks. Who do you trust less, him or Haitian Guy?

Also, I did not write I thought Sylar lost his mystery - what ever that means - but that I found him less interesting once he was held in that cell, under bright lights.

 

[Hand of Evil]

So, Peter's vision, I wonder if it was not a manifestaion of some of Sylar's power?