Heroforge introduces microtransaction model with Daggerheart collaboration

[Imaro]

I think it is important to remember that enshittification isn't just about increased prices, it is about worse service in order to enrich investors at the expense of customers. I can't say whether that is happening here, since I am not a customer, but so far anyway it sounds more like a simple revenue stream increase. That's not necessarily the same as enshittification.

I'd say sectioning off specific assets and adding a micro-transaction fee on top of the subscription fee (especially when both monkey and frogs were previously included in said subscription) qualifies as worse service to enrich investors at the expense of customers... I can also understand why many are angry about that and the precedence it might set...

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I'd say sectioning off specific assets and adding a micro-transaction fee on top of the subscription fee (especially when both monkey and frogs were previously included in said subscription) qualifies as worse service to enrich investors at the expense of customers... I can also understand why many are angry about that and the precedence it might set...

Monkey and frog are available without the subscription, for the record. The subscription fee is for premium services beyond just buying a miniature. Although the subscribers are naturally the ones who would be most irritated, since they're already paying a premium that the one-off customers do not.

 

[humble minion]

Yeah, if they’d locked the Daggerheart content behind the existing subscription paywall there’d have probably been less backlash. If they’d even bumped the subscription price a bit (in line with inflation) people wouldn’t have liked it, but there’d have been grumbling rather than outright outrage.

The whole microtransaction DLC model is a pretty radioactive concept even in video games where it’s been commonplace and widely despised for many years. The worms in that particular can are very familiar and unpleasant, and even the hint it’s being opened will get people up in arms. And of course the ones who’ll be most annoyed will be their biggest spending existing customers, who ALREADY pay a premium for access to everything, only to have the rules of the game changed under their feet.

 

[Reynard]

The whole microtransaction DLC model is a pretty radioactive concept even in video games where it’s been commonplace and widely despised for many years.

Fortnite makes billions of dollars a year based on microtransactions. People might complain, but it is standard practice.

What people really hate is change. In all its forms. Always.

But again, it came up in this very thread: there are (apparently) better services out there. Use one of those. Vote with your wallet.

 

[Imaro]

Fortnite makes billions of dollars a year based on microtransactions. People might complain, but it is standard practice.

What people really hate is change. In all its forms. Always.

But again, it came up in this very thread: there are (apparently) better services out there. Use one of those. Vote with your wallet.

Fortnite doesn't have you paying a subscription... it's the combination that people don't like... and chalking it up to "people just don't like change." is purposefully ignoring (belittling??) what the actual issue is.

 

[Reynard]

Fortnite doesn't have you paying a subscription... it's the combination that people don't like... and chalking it up to "people just don't like change." is purposefully ignoring (belittling??) what the actual issue is.

So, WoW then.

 

[Imaro]

So, WoW then.

Yes and just like WoW the model isn't accepted and/or celebrated by all... what exactly is your point?

EDIT: I hope it's not to claim Blizzard is somehow a paragon to hold up for being pro-consumer or even consumer neutral... because that is laughable.

 

[Jahydin]

Fortnite makes billions of dollars a year based on microtransactions. People might complain, but it is standard practice.

And there is talk about how their micro-transactions have hurt gaming too.

What people really hate is change. In all its forms. Always.

And what they hate more is change for the worse.

But again, it came up in this very thread: there are (apparently) better services out there. Use one of those. Vote with your wallet.

For sure. Which is why it's cool we have this thread to talk about that.

 

[Reynard]

Yes and just like WoW the model isn't accepted and/or celebrated by all... what exactly is your point?

My only point was that it does appear that what is happening here is some sort of unprecedented move by the company.

EDIT: I hope it's not to claim Blizzard is somehow a paragon to hold up for being pro-consumer or even consumer neutral... because that is laughable.

I'll thank you not to impose your assumptions on my motives.

 

[Retreater]

So I am running two Daggerheart campaigns. I just noticed that Heroforge has these ancestries. I'm trying to understand the model, but it wasn't clear from the website.

Is it that I have to pay to get access to be able to buy a miniature? I'm really confused.