wedgeski
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What about facing? Irrelevant?frankthedm said:That is correct. Without that cover/concealment you are no longer able to hide. You re-enter your foe's LOS and he sees you provided we are only talking about the PHB.
What about facing? Irrelevant?frankthedm said:That is correct. Without that cover/concealment you are no longer able to hide. You re-enter your foe's LOS and he sees you provided we are only talking about the PHB.
Facing does not exist in wotc versions of D&D unless the optional rules from uneathed arcana are used.wedgeski said:What about facing? Irrelevant?
That is only on the first round of combat before they act.ninja.assassin said:If you're already acting in initiative order, though, when you leave your Hide-granting cover/concealment and you act before your target it won't matter that your victim has seen you -- if you're angle is simply a sneak attack they'll be surprised anyway.
wedgeski said:What about facing? Irrelevant?
frankthedm said:That is only on the first round of combat before they act.
Using the PHB only, there is still one more possibility they are using for how they handle hide. Invisibility is a condition givin in the back of the book, most notably granted by the spell invisibility. Aside from not beeing seen (same as hide), defenders are denied their dex (same as hide), they are {NOT} considered flat footed against you (not mentioned in hide SRD, but 'clarified/added' in CAd), and invisible attackers gain +2 to attack targets that can not see them (not mentiond in hide SRD or CAd or SRD flat footed for that matter). {EDIT: I thought this was part of invisibility but don't see it in SRD.}Markn said:OK, so using PHB only, if you have no cover/concealment then you are automatically seen. So, what if you are using CAd? How does that differ?
Edit- Er. Never mind - I guess the above post explains it.
Thanks everyone.
I haven't heard of anyone granting a hidden character +2 to attack. I'm sure they are considered the same in all other respects by FAQ, and most games.Mistwell said:Well, and the FAQ does seem to assume that a hidden character is an invisible character for most purposes.