How do LG characters intimidate

[airwalkrr]

The threat of lawful punishment can be quite intimidating methinks. I particularly like the CSI scenes where Detective Brass insinuates just how many orifices of the suspect will be raped in prison if he does not comply. I gotta admit that would get me talking.

I think one of the chief differences between lawful intimidation and chaotic intimidation is that the chaotic intimidator is far more likely to hurt you in the process whereas the lawful intimidator is more likely to warn you first.

 

[Klaus]

Det. Flass: "I know nothing! I swear to God!"
Batman: "SWEAR TO ME!!!!!"


Thug: "WHERE ARE YOU??!??"
Batman: "right here."


Falcone: "Wh-who are you?"
Batman: "I'm Batman."


That's how a LG character intimidates.

 

[shilsen]

That's exactly what I wanted to post. Carrot is the ultimate example of a LG character you don't want to go up against.

FireLance and you beat me to it. Carrot's the best literary example of that I can think of.

 

[Thanee]

Have you seen The Untouchables?

Bye
Thanee

 

[ShinHakkaider]

Okay. I have five ranks in intimidate. I'm looking to use the skill in social situations, not to impose a combat penalty. Let's say we've got a captive/potential criminal into confessing their crimes. How do I have my LG character get the confession?

Watch Guy Pierce's character interrogate the two black suspects in LA CONFIDENTIAL.

Lawful Good, does NOT mean Lawful Stupid.

 

[Harm]

People keep talking about police, it's really not the same thing. In DnD society peasents can be property, criminals aren't innocent before proven guilty, trials, when there is a trial, often take minutes not months, executions are public and often bloody.

It's lawful to chop off a thief's hand (actually it is in a lot of countries NOW.) If your LG character knows someone is guilty of something it's perfectly legal and good to beat the living out of them.

Just remember that next time you kick down some dungeon door, break into some sentient creature's home and then kill them for defending it. Beating up an actual badguy is okay.

 

[shilsen]

People keep talking about police, it's really not the same thing. In DnD society peasents can be property, criminals aren't innocent before proven guilty, trials, when there is a trial, often take minutes not months, executions are public and often bloody.

Where do you get this information from? I can't recall anything in the core books which say this. A particular setting might, but then that's setting-specific information and not true of some universal "DnD society".

It's lawful to chop off a thief's hand (actually it is in a lot of countries NOW.) If your LG character knows someone is guilty of something it's perfectly legal and good to beat the living out of them.

In some games and settings, maybe. In my Eberron game in Sharn, no. What you desceribe is not a universal.

Just remember that next time you kick down some dungeon door, break into some sentient creature's home and then kill them for defending it. Beating up an actual badguy is okay.

In my game, only sometimes.

 

[Jürgen Hubert]

FireLance and you beat me to it. Carrot's the best literary example of that I can think of.

Actually, I think Samuel Vimes would be a better example - he is no paladin like Carrot, but he does look out firmly for the little guys, and he does believe in the Rule of a Law that applies to everyone equally.

Read the ginger beer interrogation scene in "night watch" - he doesn't threaten the thug he is questioning, he doesn't harm him, he doesn't lie to him, he only allows the victim's imagination run freely. And judging from this scene, I'd say that Vimes has a lot of ranks in Interrogation...

And he also knows the limits for interrogation, as seen in Thud. He just has a good understanding of how the human (or dwarven) mind works - and that's all he needs.

 

[Harm]

Read the ginger beer interrogation scene in "night watch" - he doesn't threaten the thug he is questioning, he doesn't harm him, he doesn't lie to him, he only allows the victim's imagination run freely. And judging from this scene, I'd say that Vimes has a lot of ranks in Interrogation...

He's also in a comedy. His dice only have 20s and 1s on them.

 

[shilsen]

Actually, I think Samuel Vimes would be a better example - he is no paladin like Carrot, but he does look out firmly for the little guys, and he does believe in the Rule of a Law that applies to everyone equally.

Read the ginger beer interrogation scene in "night watch" - he doesn't threaten the thug he is questioning, he doesn't harm him, he doesn't lie to him, he only allows the victim's imagination run freely. And judging from this scene, I'd say that Vimes has a lot of ranks in Interrogation...

And he also knows the limits for interrogation, as seen in Thud. He just has a good understanding of how the human (or dwarven) mind works - and that's all he needs.

Vimes believes in laws applying to everyone equally, but is willing to push the boundaries enough when needed to count as NG in my book. I'd say he's CG in nature but keeps himself under control enough to be NG in his actions.