How Does AI Affect Your Online Shopping?

[TiQuinn]

I may still buy it if my curiosity is high enough and it’s in some sort of sweet spot for me and my buying habits but it’s definitely been devalued in my eyes.

 

[RenleyRenfield]

I have noticed a LOT more indy RPGS are using AI, and they state as much openly. Sadly, they lie about the text. It's obvious they are letting AI write their docs and for that lie I won't buy it. I dunno why they think they can openly use AI art and then try to convince us that the 300+ pages they cranked out in 1 month were "in no way AI" .... the text says otherwise...

I get that not every human has a writing and proofing team of 20, but just be honest, sheesh.

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On the other hand... I am not yet sure how I feel about paying for published anything that is AI generated... even if its all open and admitted and transparent...

If its a totally free fan-made whatever = then i am fine with AI. It's just a true aid to one-person's ideas at that point, and since its free, its not taking from anyone.

 

[Morrus]

It's obvious they are letting AI write their docs

How so? I've seen my own writing being accused of being AI when it wasn't (not to mention artists being constantly accused of it). I don't think these things are as obvious as some people like to claim, and having been on the receiving end of false accusations of such more than once, I am leery of anybody who claims they can tell.

 

[overgeeked]

That’s gonna be a no from me, dog.

I’ll also try to remember the names of anyone involved in the product and make a point of never buying anything from them ever again.

Literal zero-tolerance policy.

 

[Umbran]

You think in that situation because I used there idea and should compensate them?

Let us remember, our current relevant definitions of IP, found in copyright law, to not cover "ideas", but instead cover specific expression.

"Cowboys in the Crusades" is a broad, general concept, and not protected. Lifting larger sections of someone's product in detail or verbatim should get them compensation, but not their broad concepts.

Also... genAI output/results are not, as yet, covered by copyright. The protection applies only to specific expressions created by humans. Forming a prompt does not entitle you to IP protection currently.

 

[payn]

Voted more info needed. Im not an immediate nope out, but im a likely nope out.

 

[Cergorach]

Yeah, I would not pay a red cent for AI generated material.

But isn't cash green in your part of the woods...

 

[Scribe]

How does that singular statement affect you, the consumer, in that moment?

I close the tab, look up a different game, and blacklist the Dev.

 

[RenleyRenfield]

How so? I've seen my own writing being accused of being AI when it wasn't (not to mention artists being constantly accused of it). I don't think these things are as obvious as some people like to claim, and having been on the receiving end of false accusations of such more than once, I am leery of anybody who claims they can tell.

It's more obvious in a body of work than a short paper or small packet. if there are enough signs....

When I ...

... read over 100 pages and when I see formulaic paragraph formats. Same format over and over...
... see overly used exposition structure ("It's not just a dark fantasy world, it is a place to explore defeating of evil..." ) over and over
... see that most every section has a concluding/summary paragraph.
... see that most of its words are concat words "Ashlanders" "Shardbearer" , "Firebreaker".

There are a bunch more too...

I say this, if I get a whiff of AI in writing and the author is using lots of AI for art = its just too much of a lie to say "i use it for art but neeeevvverrr for text" = i call BS.

I am not saying "never use AI for text", I am just saying, bloody well admit it.

I read the big old books, White Wolf and Forgotten Realms. And if you go back and read books from 1995, tons and tons of pages of blocks of text, few images, SO MUCH writing, for Hundreds of different authors = and all in a RPG context... there is just things that people do and don't do and the view of what is AI is a LOT more clear.

Lastly... if I can tell AI to write YOUR rpg idea and it generates text and structure and word choice that is 90% the same... I don't feel bad calling it out for AI use.

 

[aco175]

I do not have a strong one way or the other opinion. I would like my games to be more human written or human art, but have found that AI helps come up with some ideas to start things. I can also see where some of the art can show what you mean in a game like the Tomb of Horrors has several pictures back in the day. I would like to see the people get paid for their time and specialty, but also see that it is becoming everywhere like micro-plastics or something.

I play a lot of golf and some of the big companies in the game started advertising AI designed clubfaces. The ides is that the computer can Dr Stange through 14,000,605 possible futures to find the one that makes the golf ball go farther in 1 day over than 5 years of research. Then AI can help print one out tonight and test it tomorrow. I do not see this as good or bad as well, but the way things are moving.

It is like being a shopping mall in the age of online.