How is the warlock not overpowered?

Raspen said:
the fay feats rail road you into makeing a cookie cutter warloc injoy them for me ill take my extra invo's and quicken / max abilitys any day O and the grand Force of Personaly and Arcane Mastery 8)
You see "cookie cutter", I see a damn good Sidhe Archer.
 

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Raspen said:
the fay feats rail road you into makeing a cookie cutter warloc injoy them for me ill take my extra invo's and quicken / max abilitys any day O and the grand Force of Personaly and Arcane Mastery 8)


Errr, how do they railroad me into anything? I'm taking them because I like them, not because I'm forced to.
 

pallandrome said:
Errr, how do they railroad me into anything? I'm taking them because I like them, not because I'm forced to.

Probably because they are mostly wrote, or need to be taken in sequential order. A lot of feats are like that...I don't see a problem.
 

Raspen said:
and lets just look at say Wish that compairs to a warlocs ummm a warlocs..........

Oh don't even bring up Wish.. 5000 XP cost, and the fact that the DM decides what happens?
The only time I ever used it my DM was a Dick.

DAR(My char): Damit, that Dragon's really abusing the Magical darkness in here, and our DM won't let us cast light spells. AHA! "I WISH I could See the Dragon!"
DM: "OK, the Dragon is 100' ahead of you. Her turn. You hear her say 'I wish Dar couldn't see me', and you can't see her."
ME: That was 5000 XP well spent.

As for Warlocks - I like them simply because I like the thought of being able to do stuff Ad Nauseum. Also one of the reasons I prefer Sorc's over Wizards. I'd rather have more castings of less spells than one or two castings but know a crapload of spells.

ALso:
Basically, it lets you play a bush league superhero alongside full-on epic heroes. You're the Scarlet Witch, they're Conan, Legolas, Merlin, the Grey Mouser, and St. George the Dragon Slayer.
Um... I take it you haven't read house of M?
 

if your a blaster you would most likely be flying and away from the battle useing eld spear.

Why would you need DR watch is the only think that seems good from them feats. if you get mith armor you can get med armor without a feat or if you go battle caster you can come out with heavy. you get a fast healing once a day if something realy gets to you. if anything you sould focuse on your saves with gear like vest or resistance and spell strike weopen. Even some feats help with this like force of personality or the kiss feat from BOED. Useing defence invocations would help more at this point then the DR so getting extra invocations like Devils own luck, Ignor the prye, Entropic warding, or enervating shadows.

at least then you can chose to max your blast then qucken another or if your just a caster type you can get ability focus and turn everything into a chicken charm the chicken and cook it on a wall of fire.

but i cant see working my way through them fay feats plus who realy whats to know they have farie blood in their body........... dispite my good nature my warloc would be disapointed to know that he wasnt some distant agrement with a demon.
 
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Raspen said:
if your a blaster you would most likely be flying and away from the battle useing eld spear.

Why would you need DR watch is the only think that seems good from them feats. if you get mith armor you can get med armor without a feat or if you go battle caster you can come out with heavy. you get a fast healing once a day if something realy gets to you. if anything you sould focuse on your saves with gear like vest or resistance and spell strike weopen. Even some feats help with this like force of personality or the kiss feat from BOED. Useing defence invocations would help more at this point then the DR so getting extra invocations like Devils own luck, Ignor the prye, Entropic warding, or enervating shadows.

at least then you can chose to max your blast then qucken another or if your just a caster type you can get ability focus and turn everything into a chicken charm the chicken and cook it on a wall of fire.

Yeah, who would want to spend feats to gain access to Charm Monster (a 4th-level spell with a duration of 1 day/level that can turn ANY creature into your trusted friend), Confusion (a 4th-level spell capable of taking out multiple creatures), Deep Slumber (putting 10HD of creatures to sleep), Dimension Door (which, unlike Flee The Scene, lets you bring along your allies) and Summon Nature's Ally V (call forth a dire lion, a griffon, a Large elemental, 1d3 unicorns, 1d3 deinonychuses...).

Yeah, the DR is the only reason... :rolleyes:

but i cant see working my way through them fay feats plus who realy whats to know they have farie blood in their body........... dispite my good nature my warloc would be disapointed to know that he wasnt some distant agrement with a demon.

'Cause demons are sooooo much cooler than this guy?

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Unseelie Fey are as evil as demons, and a good deal creepier. I'd certainly make a deal with the devil if it would keep me from turning into one of those bastards...
 

you are trying to tell me that getting a few low lvl spells that you can use once a day is worth the burn on feats when you can get invocations that can be used over and over and sill have good uses later in lvls. on the good side ya a Dim Door is good to have in case things go bad but its just as easy to get a wand or other item to save the feat. Would just be easyer getting craft magic wand feat.... sure you lose some exp but you can have your farie abilitys with just one feat.
 


Raspen said:
you are trying to tell me that getting a few low lvl spells that you can use once a day is worth the burn on feats when you can get invocations that can be used over and over and sill have good uses later in lvls. on the good side ya a Dim Door is good to have in case things go bad but its just as easy to get a wand or other item to save the feat. Would just be easyer getting craft magic wand feat.... sure you lose some exp but you can have your farie abilitys with just one feat.
Since when are 4th- and 5th-level spells "low level"?

And one of the main weaknesses of the Warlock is that he has a limited range of abilities. You spend 3 feats to get these six spell-like abilities (at caster level = character level, to boot) and you can use your invocations for other things.

This may not be *your* build, but not everyone plays a warlock just to blast things all day long.
 

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