How many arrows can one man carry?

[kreynolds]

the hilt of a sword is where you hold it by (among other parts)

I know. I'm an knife collector. I meant to say sheath or scabbard. That's what I get for posting in a rush.

 

[Xarlen]

Ah, so it is a move equiv.

Thanks Kreynolds!

 

[Pax]

I know. I'm an knife collector. I meant to say sheath or scabbard. That's what I get for posting in a rush.

*shrug* Not a problem, just an opening to bring the whole subject up at all.

 

[kreynolds]

Ah, so it is a move equiv.

No.

 

[Xarlen]

So you're telling me that not only reaching into the HHH to find what you want is a free action, that pulling it Out is a free action?

How is pulling something out of the HHH different then pulling something out of a regular backpack (Assuming that the item in question is on the top).

 

[kreynolds]

So you're telling me that not only reaching into the HHH to find what you want is a free action, that pulling it Out is a free action?

Retrieving a stored item is not two separate actions. Table 8-4: Miscellaneous Actions, PH, page 128 shows that retrieving a stored item is a single move-equivalent action. Heward's Handy Haversack makes this a free action, so long as the item is specific.

 

[Thanee]

Yeah, the HHH errata is completely silly.

Why retrieving something from the HHH on your back is a free action, while drawing a sword is a move equivalent action, is beyond me.

Probably the HHH infuses your arm with majicks to move faster or something for this particular purpose!

And all just because retrieving an item from a Bag of Holding is a move equivalent action, so the HHH must be faster, because of its special property. They should've changes the Bag of Holding to a full round action instead IMHO.

Quickdraw? Huh? I got a Haversack!

Bye
Thanee

 

[kreynolds]

Yeah, the HHH errata is completely silly.

I don't see why. For 2,000gp you get just under half the storage capacity of a type 1 Bag of Holding, but you get the nice benefit of faster retrieveal.

Bag of Holding (Bag 1): 2,500gp; 250 pound capacity.
Heward's Handy Haversack: 2,000gp; 120 pound capacity, faster retrieval.

Seems fine to me. In regards to drawing a sword from Heward's Handy Haversack as a free action, the Haversack is just as vulnerable to bare weapons as a Bag of Holding, so it's not something I would recommend doing.

 

[Thanee]

I just think free is a bit much, compared to other things you can do with free and/or move-equivalent actions.

Bye
Thanee

 

[kreynolds]

I just think free is a bit much, compared to other things you can do with free and/or move-equivalent actions.

Like what? I'm not poking and prodding. I'm just trying trying to see this from your perspective.