How many chumps can a Lvl 20 Barb take?

[S'mon]

Barbarian in a 5' tight ravine vs the Persian army.

Barbarian hits 95% doing enough to kill & greatcleave but faces only 1 at a time, so every round he kills 2 Persians. Persian hits 5% of time for 4.5 average damage. I can't be bothered to factor in the 5% success of the 5% critical confirmations (0.00?).

In this case there's no reason why the Persians would bunch up so he could Great Cleave, coming in 1 at a time halves his kill rate. Also 4.5 damage is unrealistic in 3e unless these are peasants with short spears; even a crappy 2-h weapon like great club does 1d10, if these are melee infantry something like War-1 STR 14 with Power Attack would be reasonable, so they do 1d10+5 with a _club_. That's average damage 10.5, about 11 with criticals, from a 1st level mook.

 

[S'mon]

By my summation, the Barbarian kills 0 archers, or at best a half a dozen.

Why?

Round 1, 800 longbowman each shoot a sheaf arrow at a single man. Of those, only 20 miraculously hit, and those arrows which do hit, seem to not phase him at all. This guy is still smiling *and* has 20 arrows sticking out his chest, shoulders, and possibly head.

Round 2, The barbarian moves and manages to cleave and kill several individuals.

Round 3, the longbowman, at their full movement rate, drop their bows and head for the hills.

End of combat.

I think they'd hold onto their bows and run past him (keeping more than 5' away) - they can Run 120' or Double Move 60', he can Charge 40'.

The mean thing though as GM is to use mounted horse archers...

 

[S'mon]

That's funny. And I'm not sure if it's more or less funny that barbarians get fast movement. Of course, if it's a dwarven barbarian, that puts us at normal human speed, but still...

If he's in heavy armour he doesn't get the fast movement bonus though.

 

[Pinotage]

If he's in heavy armour he doesn't get the fast movement bonus though.

Mithral Heavy Fortificaton Full Plate?

Pinotage

 

[yennico]

I'm sorry but Dwarves with bows is just wrong; Dwarves with longbows is REALLY wrong!

IMHO a dwarf is to short to use a longbow.

 

[ARandomGod]

IMHO a dwarf is to short to use a longbow.

Well, it's a Dwaaarvven longbow.

Anyhow. If you're giving the barb fast heal and all that equipment, he's an utter moron to not spend a very little extra and bring along a tower shield. When he gets low on HP, put up the bow, take out the shield, and don't get hit for several rounds.

 

[billd91]

How many chumps could a champ churl chop
if a champ churl could chop chumps?

 

[FreeTheSlaves]

All the frontline mooks use tower shields and the rear line readies actions to fire as the frontline briefly lower the shields.

Barbarian counters by readying an action himself but only then gets to kill one per round.

 

[Ace]

EEK!

If I were designing a 20th level Army Killer Barbarian I would do him this way

32 point buy

Chump Killa

Human Barbarian 20


Str 26

Int 10

Wis 10

Dex 16

Con 18

Cha 10

Feats
H Improved Toughness
1 Power Blow
3 Cleave
6 Great Cleave
9 EWP Spiked Chain
12 Combat Reflexes
15 Greater Resiliance
18 ?

Gear

Adamantium +5 Breastplate Full Fortification

Boots of Striding and Springing

+5 Animated Heavy Steel Shield

+5 Adamantium Spiked Chain "Slaughter Chain" Intellegent Purpose "Kill Chumps"

Power Cure Mod on Caster 12 per day Haste 6x Purpose Power -- Mass Inflict Light

MW Great Axe

MW Longbow Might Comp +5 Str

Arrows, Lots of Arrows

Infinite Slings

Ring of Sustenence

Amulet of Natural Armor +4

Manual of Gainfull Exercise +2

maunual of Bodily Health +2

Belt of Giant Strength +6

Cloak of Minor Displacement


His AC would be 34 or so -- His HP would be (max l1 avg after) -- 235 he would have a DR of 8 and his spiked chain would do 2d4+15 per blow with 4 blows a round at +31/+26+/+21/+16 meaning he will hit an average of 6 times per round (2 aoo within 10') each resulting in an instant kill -- with its power he can nuke 5 extra per round

Enemies with a longsword or longbow hit on a 20 -- say 1000 arrows equals 50 hits and no damage whatsoever .

I figure ChumpKilla will get 4 atacks a round (the 5 foot guys and the 10 ones with cleaves ) ) that will always hit (except on a 1) and kill -- In addition the Chain will dump a mass inflict light every round getting 10 more guys back of them -- thats 14 per round -- for every 4 glaivemen to get to him he will kill 14 -- in a narrow enough space using the figures below as many as 90,00 men can be downed

Against glaives he would take about 15 points (negate 1 thru 8, 9 does 1, 10 does 2) per 1000 attacks -- Assuming a narrow space it would 15000 glaive men to kill him. However with Slaughter Chain he can be cured of 19 points on average per use -- this is 1200 attack and change -- call it a total of 30,000 men. With Slaughterchain he can kill 36000 men in combat before they down him, tripled for the chains mass inflict -- 108000 men!

Thats more than 1/2 of Dariuses army and by the RAW over 9 million GP worth of gear.
About the only thing he has to fear is heavy crossbows
if heavy crossbows are in play 1000 of the guys can inflict 15 points per 2 rounds and can drop him in 30 rounds or so

Lastly if the miniatures handbook is in play he can a shirt that gives DR 5 -- this will render him invulnerable to all attacks from chumps -- Ouch

 

[JiffyPopTart]

Would the Barbarian get some sort of cover bonus after 5 or 6 rounds of 10,000 arrows landing in his general area?

DS