D&D 5E How many fans want a 5E Warden?

[Pssthpok]

I don't think the concept is deep enough to warrant its own class. Maybe a sub of the druid.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

Not sure what a primal defender is first off.

 

[JackOfAllTirades]

I'm going to add my vote for the Oath of the Ancients Paladin as 5E's natural successor to the Warden. (See what I did there?)

Also, IMHO, there's no such thing as a racist food; that's just silly.

I'm partial to whole wheat spaghetti with bison meat sauce.

 

[Vwls]

I've felt Oath of Ancients always felt Warden-ish enough to pass muster. Something I learned in this thread was Oath of Vengeance could be seen as Avenger, I can see that on some level but I always assumed OoV was closer to Blackguard. I could see Avenger as more of a divine inspired Rogue subclass.

 

[Tony Vargas]

I really liked this class in 4e

This is not to challenge your right to want it in 5e or anything, but I am curious what you liked about it, relative to other Defenders and other Primal classes, in particular.

Personally, I found it's role-support mechanics a little clumsy, and never quite 'got' the concept. I'd think everyone could benefit from hearing some good things about the class from someone who really appreciated it.

 

[mellored]

Not sure what a primal defender is first off.

they are 4e terms.

Primal = nature magic (druid, ranger, totem barbarian)

Defender = Penalize enemies for attacking your allies. (sentinel feat, goading attack, compelled duel).

 

[sleypy]

To me, the mechanics for Oath of Ancients aren't that far off the mark, but the oath and the motif are off. The Warden seemed to me to be more about the wrath of nature and tapping into primal powers that altered appearance to shapechanging. Looking at the druid spells from the EE Player Companion (especially the investiture spells), I think that is what is missing. Paladin currently lacks the transmutation spells.

 

[Uchawi]

The defining feature of the 4E warden was the forms it could take as a daily power, font of life, in addition to some of the at-will abilities to help control the battlefield.

 

[Jester David]

Meh.
The idea of a primal defender was necessary in 4e when roles were hardcoded. A shapeshifting tank is totally a moon druid. But an elemental or tree druid would be a fun subclass. And a shapeshifting barbarian would be fun.
Brand new class? Unneeded.

 

[fba827]

While a couple mentions as a Druid subclass have been mentioned, another option to consider is a fighter subclass akin to the eldritch knight but Druid spells instead of wizard; wis instead of int for spell casting stat; some feature that grants a bonus only usable while in light armor to encourage light armor flavor without having to rewrite armor proficiency for the whole class; and a number of times equal to 1+wis mod can take advantage on saves from magical effects and mind affecting effects this ability resets after a short rest; and +1 hit point per warden level