How the heck do you find ENWorld?!?!

[RangerWickett]

http://dir.yahoo.com/Recreation/Games/Role_Playing_Games/

Notice any sites missing there?

I was trying to entertain myself . . . okay, more honestly, I'd set my keyboard aside, was eating ramen at my computer, and I wasn't able to type the url for ENWorld. So I decided to see how easy it'd be to find the site just by clicking. I started at Yahoo!, and tried shopping, looking for Hasbro, which proved to be a dead end because I could never find a link to the actual Hasbro site.

Now, searching under games I got a little luckier, actually finding the section on RPGs, and then even D&D. But under D&D, no sign of ENWorld. Heck, D&D in general seems a little whacky. Under RPGs, WotC's site is not listed as one of the top. Under magazines, Paizo is invisible.

And for the life of me, I couldn't find any links to ENWorld.

I'm a little miffed at this. We're popular. We're big. We have the Ceramic DM competition. And Hong. Why doesn't Yahoo know about us?

Now, true, if you type in D&D to search, ENWorld pops up as #5 (with the old enworld.cyberstreet.com) address, but we're behind (of all things) a company that sells motorcycle exhaust pipes, an essay about whether D&D leads to devil-worship, and a site with the easily memorable name of www.advanceddungeonsanddragonsadventures.com. And WotC. So we should be #2.

How do we rectify this situation? Just have all 10 thousand of us swing by Yahoo, search for D&D, and click on ENWorld?

 

[Morrus]

I don't know how it works. I think Google is the more important place to be listed, though. How do we fare there?

 

[Morrus]

Trying some Google searches:


D&D - Halfway down the second page.

d20 - Halfway down the first page. Behind d20 Magazine Rack, which is odd (no offence to the d20zines folks - it's a great site!)

d20 d&D - Pole position. Yay!

RPG - Not listed.

 

[johnsemlak]

D&D - Halfway down the second page.

What can we do to improve that?

 

[johnsemlak]

Trying some Google searches:


D&D - Halfway down the second page.

d20 - Halfway down the first page. Behind d20 Magazine Rack, which is odd (no offence to the d20zines folks - it's a great site!)

d20 d&D - Pole position. Yay!

RPG - Not listed.

Couple More

D&D Store - not listed in first 5 pages

D&D Shop - 2nd item on third page

 

[EricNoah]

I think one of the issues is the fact that EN World has had several URLs over its history. The more folks create links to one (and only one) URL, the better the ranking for that URL and thus the higher it will appear on Google.

BTW "Dungeons and Dragons" brings up the old RPG Planet site as the 12th hit and there's been nothing but a placeholder there for about 3 years!

 

[johnsemlak]

D&D adventures - 4th page (two links, to a news item and a forum thread)

D&D downloads - 2nd item on 2nd page

 

[johnsemlak]

I think one of the issues is the fact that EN World has had several URLs over its history. The more folks create links to one (and only one) URL, the better the ranking for that URL and thus the higher it will appear on Google.

Good point. The D&D downloads google link I posted above was to the cyberstreet URL.

 

[johnsemlak]

Oh, finally,

D&D news - 2ND LINK though behind the rpg planet site Eric mentioned above

 

[Envel]

heres a tool that might help with figuring out EN Worlds google rank:

Free Monitor For Google

its tells you whether you are 5th, 2nd, or whatever, when using certain keywords.

i would use it to monitor my website, except google has chosen not to notice it yet.