How would you change the new Star Wars trilogy

[dragoner]

A droid or AI villain might have been interesting. Leftover Empire tech that develops a mind of its own?

Droid Apocalypse, that would be a thing.

 

[lowkey13]

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[Ovinomancer]

Same point I’ve been making. If you do not understand it, further explanation will not help.

if you do not agree despite understanding, then that’s fine. You can argue about what constitutes new enough in the context of the last scene of TLJ with someone else.

I.. I'm... I'm the one just disagreeing with you? It's not the lists of examples from the movies I provided that address your point directly?

Yeah, I have to go with taking the piss, as you're not a obtuse person. Good one?

 

[lowkey13]

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[Ovinomancer]

Sometimes I wonder if I am sufficiently clear? I mean, is "You can argue ... with come else" unclear?

I mean, let me understand this … cuz I … maybe its me, maybe I’m a little messed up maybe. Is it because people think I'm funny?

I’m funny how? I mean funny, like I’m a clown? I'm here to amuse you? To make you laugh? I’m here only to amuse you?

So it's funny when I say argue with someone else? Like a big red nose clown funny? Like, I'll ignore what the person wrote and say that he's just being funny, funny?

Go fig. I better get back to practicing with Droid Apocalypse. Those Disco Star Wars medleys aren't going to write themselves.

Oh, sorry, you had a conditional in there for what you appear to have intended as a plain statement, which is why it was unclear. I didn't disagree despite understanding, so I responded. Instead, I didn't understand how you could continue to assert a factually incorrect interpretation. I will take you intended message, now that you've sufficiently clarified it.

As for funny... I'd have to say like a clown, yes.

 

[Zardnaar]

Kylo can't be the main villain because they didn't develop him and they wrote Rey to be super Jedi Knight with no training.

You don't see Vader losing or whining in the 2st two movies.

A main problem the trilogy had was undermining the other characters to make Rey look good.

So you had to bring back Palpatine or have Kylo as a weak villain.

If they had put things in a different order, is Rey smacking down Kylo in part 3 not part 1, Snoke dying part 3.

Rey didn't need to be related to anyone but she needed a relationship but they didn't do much there. Reylo doesn't really work when you think about it.

Rey could have been Luke's star pupil where she met Ben. She would have had a preestablished relationship with Kylo, already a Jedi Knight, Luke doesn't come across as a failure etc.

 

[Imaculata]

Kylo can't be the main villain because they didn't develop him and they wrote Rey to be super Jedi Knight with no training.

I think they developed Kylo enough, though it is mostly Driver's acting that is doing the heavy lifting. Him being beaten by Rey in the first movie I never had a problem with. In the following movies they kept incrementing her powers futher however, which is where they crossed a line.

You don't see Vader losing or whining in the 2st two movies.

Kylo Ren doesn't need to be a Vader clone. In fact, he shouldn't be. His conflicted nature and weakness is what makes him interesting as a character to me. His loss against Rey is the first step to changing him from an antagonist to a possible ally.

So you had to bring back Palpatine or have Kylo as a weak villain.

Kylo Ren's conflict was already set up in the first movie. I don't think he was meant to remain the main villain throughout the whole trilogy. But they shouldn't have killed off Snoke quite so early.

If they had put things in a different order, is Rey smacking down Kylo in part 3 not part 1, Snoke dying part 3.

They could have gone that way. But I thought that the idea that Rey was stronger with the force than Kylo was an interesting angle. I feel they could have explored the idea of her being some sort of anomaly within the force. A flux or divergence, instead of a direct child of a character we already know. I also like the idea that Rey is drawn to the dark side, where Kylo is drawn to the light side. There's an interesting dynamic there, which they kind of explored in The Last Jedi. If only they would have had a better pay off. But I guess that requires good writers.

Rey didn't need to be related to anyone but she needed a relationship but they didn't do much there. Reylo doesn't really work when you think about it.

Indeed she didn't need to be related to anyone. But when I think about it, their relationship is the most interesting angle to explore for their characters. They are both force sensitive and both being drawn to the other's side. It makes sense to explore a relationship that is somewhere in the gray. But I think The Last Jedi really missed a great opportunity to have both abandon their respective sides, instead of Kylo immediately returning to evil after their big team up battle.

Rey could have been Luke's star pupil where she met Ben. She would have had a preestablished relationship with Kylo, already a Jedi Knight, Luke doesn't come across as a failure etc.

I'm not sure how I feel about Luke being a failure. On one hand I feel that all characters need new trials and tribulations. You can't have Luke being happy and successful, and you need a reason why he is living on a secluded island. But on the other, I feel The Last Jedi inserted things that didn't seem to fit his character.

 

[Janx]

After much thought, I figured it out. Here's the small thing I would change. I would use AI to remove or mask any and all content talking about "what's wrong with Star Wars" so the rest of us can just watch the darn films.

More than half of the problem is people pointing out a supposed problem that the rest of us wouldn't notice.

 

[GreyLord]

Just a brief comment on this- yes, I know this is going around. The "JJ Cut" will likely go down with the "Snyder Cut" in internet lore.

Except that there's much less reason to believe in the JJ Cut. It's bunkum. To borrow a pithy phrase I read elsewhere:

"The #ReleaseTheJJCut conspiracy theory is great because it reads like something JJ Abrams would write: it’s flashy, full of mystery and intrigue and makes no sense if you scrutinize it closely."

Disney didn't mess it up; Abrams did that all on his lonesome.

From what I'm hearing, I think there is a JJ Cut. This is also why Matt Smith didn't show up as he would have (Son of Mortis storyline from JJ, vs. the Kennedy mandated Palpatine storyline).

Various leakers that seemed to be accurate on their predictions of the this movie also seem to be indicating that this is a REAL thing.

Whether we would actually ever get to see it...on the otherhand...that could be a never.

OR, if Disney really wants to get more money, release it (if they are able to have enough to actually make a cut that satisfies JJ). I would guess they could garner at least another 100 million if they did that, if not more.

 

[lowkey13]

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