OSR Hybrid TSR era clone, does it exist?

[Sacrosanct]

Thanks everyone. I know I was totally missing the obvious, although I have a hard time internally rationalizing ascending AC as OSR lol. In my head, when it comes to D&D at least, there is TSR era as OSR, and then WoTC is modern. A very clear line of distinction.

Anyway, what has been tossed around in my head is something like B/X alignment, movement rules, weapon attacks per round (no rate of fire), 1e's aesthetic and atmosphere, race and class separate, and most common rules, and 2e's thief/bard skill progression, and wizard specialization. I'm also thinking of adding/modifying classes so that they get their special abilities staggered as to avoid dead levels whenever possible.

 

[Voadam]

Thanks everyone. I know I was totally missing the obvious, although I have a hard time internally rationalizing ascending AC as OSR lol. In my head, when it comes to D&D at least, there is TSR era as OSR, and then WoTC is modern. A very clear line of distinction.

Anyway, what has been tossed around in my head is something like B/X alignment, movement rules, weapon attacks per round (no rate of fire), 1e's aesthetic and atmosphere, race and class separate, and most common rules, and 2e's thief/bard skill progression, and wizard specialization. I'm also thinking of adding/modifying classes so that they get their special abilities staggered as to avoid dead levels whenever possible.

I would then again suggest Labyrinth Lord Advanced Edition Companion as most appropriate. It will give you the BX base with 1e options of race and class separate. You would have to homebrew the 2e specialist wizards and thief skill percentage increases, but that should be easy. OSE advanced options keeps race as class for the 1e race additions. I am not aware of anything adding in 2e stuff to BX on its own out of the box, just straight 2e clones like For Gold & Glory. The 1e adaptations will give you illusionists as their own class which could be used as is and as a base for other 2e specialist types, or you could just apply the 2e specialist features to the 1e adapted MU.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

Old School Essentials with the Advanced books is a near perfect hybrid of B/X with some AD&D options added in. They just finished up a kickstarter for a few new books but you can get the current basic+advanced books now.

 

[Nikosandros]

Thanks everyone. I know I was totally missing the obvious, although I have a hard time internally rationalizing ascending AC as OSR lol. In my head, when it comes to D&D at least, there is TSR era as OSR, and then WoTC is modern. A very clear line of distinction.

Yeah, ascending AC in an OSR game is just wrong...

 

[Giltonio_Santos]

I'm still waiting for the 2e clone. Does anyone know about a good option?

 

[Zardnaar]

I'm still waiting for the 2e clone. Does anyone know about a good option?

Gold and Glory.

 

[Weiley31]

Gold and Glory,from what I heard, is basically DND 2E, with ascending AC IIRC, without DND stamped on the front and no risk of a Lawyer coming down to auto roll Nat 20s crit hit it into oblivion. And it's pretty much compatible with everything 2E.

I myself have been a little curious on trying a bit of OSR, but I'm looking for 2E compatible with 1E ala, what was it, DND 1E Advanced and DND 2E?

Or is that Swords and Wizadry?

 

[Helldritch]

With the availability of the PDF. Why go for a clone when you can get the original?

 

[Greg Benage]

With the availability of the PDF. Why go for a clone when you can get the original?

Ordinarily a great question, but he specifically wants a hybrid of three different editions...

 

[Helldritch]

Ordinarily a great question, but he specifically wants a hybrid of three different editions...

It was argued, a long tume ago, that the 2ed was the blend of some of the idea of late BECMI (with the cyclopedia) and 1ed. I would then go for the 2ed with whatever "complete" book you want for a specific campaign.

Don't get me wrong. I have OSRiC and a few other retro clones, but a mixed edition clone... go for the 2ed.