Hyp is going to love this: All About AoOs 2

[Hypersmurf]

Regardless, allowing for the fact that you can take AoOs while you're acting, the 'chain' *still* stops after one AoO each, unless both combatants have Combat Reflexes and incredible dexterities, since you can only take one AoO without that particular feat.

Which he notes in the article.

Of course, if you want truly ludicrous, both combatants need the Improved Combat Reflexes Epic feat (removes the cap on number of AoOs in a round entirely), the Double Hit feat (allows an attack with both primary and off-hand weapon on an AoO), and the Karmic Strike feat (a successful melee attack against you provokes an AoO).

He hits me? I hit him twice. He hits me four times. I hit him eight times...

In the surprise round, there's a whirlwind of steel, and then one epic character keels over, while the other bleeds.

Then the next character in the initiative order gets his standard action...

-Hyp.

 

[Jeff Wilder]

It doesn't make sense to be able to take an AoO on your turn.

Why doesn't it make sense? (Honest question.)


Jeff

 

[Klaus]

Yep, I know that in the XPH and other recent stuff they've broken free actions into swift (free action on your turn) and immediate (free action at any time), but that hasn't been back-propagated to the standard 3.5 rules AFAIK. Have you seen anything that maps all the existing stuff onto swift/immediate?

Cheers

Free Action -> You can do during your turn, takes negligible time and there is no set limit of how many you can you in a round. Example: Quick Draw.

Swift Action -> You can do during your turn, takes nearly negligible time, but a bit of concentration, and you can only perform one in a round. Example: Cast quickened spell (formerly defined as "a free action, but you can only use it once per round")

Immediate Action -> You can do it even if it's not your turn. Takes no time at all. No mention of a limit per round. Example: Instantaneous Rage.

 

[Plane Sailing]

I know, but it hasn't found it's way into the SRD other than the psionics section IIRC; i.e. featherfall hasn't been declared an immediate action, quicken spell hasn't been declared to make a spell castable as a swift action etc.

 

[rkanodia]

In the situation you describe, what actually happens in the game is that the two wary opponents enter a very brief binding of bodies and blades that ends when one them successfully ... whatevers ... trips, sunders, disarms.

That approach is great if you have players who can deliver pithy dialogue over a pair of crossed swords. If you aren't as lucky as I am, a Matrix-like flurry of activity handles the situation pretty well.

 

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by Plane Sailing
Some free actions can take place at any time, of course... speaking and featherfall are specially called out as such.

Where does is it state that speaking as a free action can be performed at any time?

 

[Abraxas]

Posted by Klaus
Immediate Action -> You can do it even if it's not your turn. Takes no time at all. No mention of a limit per round. Example: Instantaneous Rage.

XPH pg 59 - "Using an immediate action on your turn is the same as using a swift action, an counts as your swift action for that turn."
Wouldn't this limit immediate actions to 1 per turn?

 

[Hypersmurf]

Where does is it state that speaking as a free action can be performed at any time?

3.5 PHB: Combat chapter: Combat: Free Actions: Speak.

Speak
In general, speaking is a free action that you can perform even when it isn’t your turn. Speaking more than few sentences is generally beyond the limit of a free action.

-Hyp.

 

[Abraxas]

Acckk!! - That was painfully obvious now.

That paragraph must have HiPS or I'm going blind.

Thanks