I broke my brain...Duel Weilding a Lances on a horse!?!? lol

[Satyrn]

Hola!

Things like this lead me to ask one, simple question: "If I saw this in Sam Raimi's Xena: Warrior Princess, would I be thinking...COOL!....or would I be thinking WFT?!?". If it's the latter...then no, it won't work.

^_^

Sat - "That was the Ares that should've been in Wonder Woman" - yrn




(Apologies for the copycatting - it was done with kindly intent)

 

[Ancalagon]

Hiya!

Things like this lead me to ask one, simple question: "If I saw this in Peter Jacksons Lord of the Rings, would I be thinking...COOL!....or would I be thinking WFT?!?". If it's the later...then no, it won't work.

^_^

Paul L. Ming

When I saw Gandalf with a longsword in one hand and a staff in another awkwardly flailing about, my reaction was not "COOL!"....

 

[Oofta]

When I saw Gandalf with a longsword in one hand and a staff in another awkwardly flailing about, my reaction was not "COOL!"....

I think it's because of that one dumb scene we have quarterstaves that can be wielded one handed. Another piece of silliness I've removed from my campaign. A quarterstaff is two-handed, a bo stick is one handed.

 

[pming]

Hiya!

I think it's because of that one dumb scene we have quarterstaves that can be wielded one handed. Another piece of silliness I've removed from my campaign. A quarterstaff is two-handed, a bo stick is one handed.

In my campaigns I deal with this sort of thing with another easy "tip". If you are using a weapon not as it is intended...then it's either a Club, or a Stick.

^_^

Paul L. Ming

 

[BookBarbarian]

When I saw Gandalf with a longsword in one hand and a staff in another awkwardly flailing about, my reaction was not "COOL!"....

Indeed.

He has a perfectly good sword, one of the best in that world even. Why not just use it for all his melee attacks.

"Hmm I can hit you with this amazing Elven sword that will cleave through whatever armor you have, or whack you with my spellcasting focus. I'll opt for the latter"

 

[Ancalagon]

Indeed.

He has a perfectly good sword, one of the best in that world even. Why not just use it for all his melee attacks.

"Hmm I can hit you with this amazing Elven sword that will cleave through whatever armor you have, or whack you with my spellcasting focus. I'll opt for the latter"

I blame gamer's notion of two weapon fighting - that it gives you more attacks.

 

[Riley37]

I blame gamer's notion of two weapon fighting - that it gives you more attacks.

I have seen a guy try two-sword fighting in the Society for Creative Anachronism. My reaction was indeed "cool", and he defeated some sword-and-board fighters. So far as I could tell, his advantage wasn't the ability to deliver a higher volume of full-force blows, it was more ways to exploit openings.

In anything other than a one-on-one duel, other disadvantages arise. If hostile archers send a volley your way, blocking arrows with a shield is more reliable than parrying arrows with a pair of swords. Also, a shield is necessary when it's time to form a shield-wall.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I did some “bopper sparring” with a group of guys back in the 1990s- one of whom was a Marine, and also in SCA. Like real weapons, most of the weapons weighed between 1.5-5lbs.

One of the more proficient guys was a 6’3”, 330lb bouncer who used 2WF with a sword & dagger. He had biceps bigger than some women’s waists. IOW, he was BIG. (While pretty strong myself, I was only 5’7” and 193lbs.)

He was quite skilled at using crossed blades to trap and redirect blows, with a flowing follow-up counterstrike- often along the line of the redirected weapon.

The thing is, I damn near concussed him the first time we sparred when I used a polearm. The head was @3lbs, the weapon was 6’ long. I held it shoulder high and vertical, its head about 11’ in the air. He charged, and I brought it down.

As powerful as he was, his attempted redirect failed. He “caught” the weapon, but 3lbs being brought down like that on a 6’ pole with my arms fully extended generated enough force that the head and both of his weapons were driven right back into him. Only a last moment juke of his head prevented him from taking his own sword to the face. His tree-trunk arms couldn’t muster enough force to push my strike out of my intended target zone.

He taught a lot of people about how dangerous 2WF could be...but I taught him a lesson about pure applied physics.

 

[Ancalagon]

I have seen a guy try two-sword fighting in the Society for Creative Anachronism. My reaction was indeed "cool", and he defeated some sword-and-board fighters. So far as I could tell, his advantage wasn't the ability to deliver a higher volume of full-force blows, it was more ways to exploit openings.

In anything other than a one-on-one duel, other disadvantages arise. If hostile archers send a volley your way, blocking arrows with a shield is more reliable than parrying arrows with a pair of swords. Also, a shield is necessary when it's time to form a shield-wall.

Indeed. And a skilled two weapon fighter can indeed look cool. The film Gandalf flailing about wasn't.

 

[BookBarbarian]

I have seen a guy try two-sword fighting in the Society for Creative Anachronism. My reaction was indeed "cool", and he defeated some sword-and-board fighters. So far as I could tell, his advantage wasn't the ability to deliver a higher volume of full-force blows, it was more ways to exploit openings.

In anything other than a one-on-one duel, other disadvantages arise. If hostile archers send a volley your way, blocking arrows with a shield is more reliable than parrying arrows with a pair of swords. Also, a shield is necessary when it's time to form a shield-wall.

Two sword (or rapier) fighting was definitely a valid dueling technique in Europe and Japan. Usually attributed to the highest masters.

I've never heard it used as a battlefield technique however.

Edit: Which isn't to say that it hasn't happened. There's a lot of stuff I don't know about, so take it with a grain of salt.