Pathfinder 1E I get the feeling Paizo isn't worried about Wizards of the Coast.

[Olaf the Stout]

I'm not sure I get the point of this thread. Did WotC or someone else in the industry ckaim that Paizo were worried about WotC? If not it seems a bit pointless, or just someone stirring the pot for the sake of it.

 

[Morrus]

I was under the assumption that they couldn't modify the content significantly and still claim it as a work covered by the SRD. I may well be wrong, though.

What mechanism makes you assume that? (And have you seen Mutants & Masterminds recently?)

Not that they do claim it as 'work covered by the SRD' - that would be some terrible branding. I think 'the world's most popular fantasy RPG' works much better!

 

[Gundark]

I don't know what it is, but I get the feeling that Wizards of the Coast are worried about Paizo and Pathfinder, but Paizo isn't worried about Wizards of the Coast. I've never really gotten the impression that Paizo is trying to pull customers away from D&D over to Pathfinder. It's like the company is so comfortable in their own skin that they just continue forward without a care in the world what Wizards does.

Now I could be wrong entirely, but that is the impression I am under.

I doubt WotC is worried about Paizo either

 

[DaveMage]

WotC has Magic. The suits likely view the D&D brand as a unit unto itself that either performs or doesn't.

They may see Paizo as a factor that affects the brand, but at the end of the day, D&D either makes money or not. I don't think Paizo keeps them up at night.

As for Paizo worrying about Next, I think they've inspired enough brand loyalty that they will hold the core of their audience through the intro of Next and then still be solid when the Next shiny wears off.

 

[ImperatorK]

Why would they?

 

[Gundark]

This is another example of fans thinking that there is a rivalry between Paizo and WotC when neither side has said or indicated it.

It's also shows the fallacy in thinking that you either have to be a Pathfinder customer or a D&D customer. Why can't people be both?

Does WotC want customers of Pathfinder to be customers of Next? Of course they do and the reverse is also true. If WotC wanted to sink Paizo I doubt putting out a competing rpg is the way to do it. WotC has been clear from the start that their goals are to support every edition of D&D and to create a set of rules to support people's differing play styles. So far they haven't done anything to indicate that they aren't pursuing those goals. They also haven't done anything since announcing D&Dnext to show any malicious intent towards Paizo

Paizo has their fanbase, they shouldn't be any more worried about 5e than they were worried about any other rpg that was released (Fate Core, Shadowrun, 13th Age). Yet people aren't creating threads about that.

 

[Morrus]

Every game - every thing - has its time. There is no game in the history of RPGs which has risen to the top and stayed there permanently. D&D's been there, White Wolf's stuff has been there, Pathfinder's currently there, other games have done very well over the years. There's absolutely no telling what will be popular in five years.

Sometimes this isn't because companies had bad games, or did the wrong thing. Sometimes that's just how things are. Nothing will stay up there forever.

The goal isn't to beat the other guy. The goal is to run a sustainable and profitable business. If the other guys can do that to, often that may benefit you both; especially in an industry like tabletop gaming where playing multiple games or chopping and changing is easy (it's not like buying a new car and being stuck with it for the best part of a decade - THAT'S proper competition).

 

[ForeverSlayer]

This is another example of fans thinking that there is a rivalry between Paizo and WotC when neither side has said or indicated it.

It's also shows the fallacy in thinking that you either have to be a Pathfinder customer or a D&D customer. Why can't people be both?

Does WotC want customers of Pathfinder to be customers of Next? Of course they do and the reverse is also true. If WotC wanted to sink Paizo I doubt putting out a competing rpg is the way to do it. WotC has been clear from the start that their goals are to support every edition of D&D and to create a set of rules to support people's differing play styles. So far they haven't done anything to indicate that they aren't pursuing those goals. They also haven't done anything since announcing D&Dnext to show any malicious intent towards Paizo

Paizo has their fanbase, they shouldn't be any more worried about 5e than they were worried about any other rpg that was released (Fate Core, Shadowrun, 13th Age). Yet people aren't creating threads about that.

Seems to me that the current edition, so far, isn't supporting those different playstyles. Seems more like they are mixing those styles together.

 

[The Human Target]

Seems like maybe you should keep you WotC hate/frustration confined to a single thread.

 

[ForeverSlayer]

Seems like maybe you should keep you WotC hate/frustration confined to a single thread.

If you have a problem with it then report it, but as long as I'm not breaking the CoC then I can express my opinion.