I hate Christmas

[eabha]

I am forced to conclude, as Storm Raven already has, that his family actively dislikes him and does not want to get him the things he wants. This makes me a little bit sad for him.

My mother's former in-laws so despised her she once received a used toilet brush as a Christmas present from them. Seriously.

Sure, we laugh hysterically at this story now, but at the time I felt terrible for my mom. However, all that pales in comparision to some of what I have read in this thread. This whole thing is just sad and in no way helping me get into the spirit of the season.

 

[WhimsyTheFae]

Oh heck, this is too good to leave...plus, I have a civilized question that I still haven't seen answered.

SR, have you asked your father why he got you the pen? Find that out, then come back and let us know. I am interested in the answer.

 

[Storm Raven]

You don't have to take anyone's desires into consideration.

That is what several posters in this thread have been saying. It doesn't matter what the recipient wants. It only matters what the giver wants to give. For the recipient to voice an opinion on what he'd like to get is selfish and evil. The giver should send him whatever he thinks "gives a piece of himself", no matter what the recipient wants.

 

[Ralts Bloodthorne]

If you get me something I don't want, you may as well not even get me a gift. You didn't think about me when you got the gift, you thought about yourself - and what you wanted me to have.

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More like "I cared enough to get you something I wanted you to have, nevermind what you actually want." With that sentiment, just count me out. You keep your money and your false generosity.

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Because you perpetuate the lie that somehow, getting someone somthing you think they shoudl have, rather than what you know they want is being generous. In point of fact, it is the epitome of selfishness.

I hereby put forth the motion that from here on out, Christmas be referred to as:

Give Storm Raven What He Wants Day!


You just don't get it, do you?

What was it that spoiled Christmas for you? Did you want Operation and your Grandma got you Risk? Did you want that Billy & the Boingers tape, and your Dad got you Brak's Greatest Hits?

What was it that made you decide that if it wasn't what you wanted, it wasn't worth your time and effort? That it should be all about what the reciever wants, not what the giver thinks that the recipeint might enjoy?

What was it that destroyed your joy in the Christmas holiday and your joy at recieving gifts?

 

[WhimsyTheFae]

That is what several posters in this thread have been saying. It doesn't matter what the recipient wants. It only matters what the giver wants to give. For the recipient to voice an opinion on what he'd like to get is selfish and evil. The giver should send him whatever he thinks "gives a piece of himself", no matter what the recipient wants.

No, making a wish list is not evil. Being bitter and unforgiving about not getting what's on it, however, is the issue.

 

[Storm Raven]

SR, have you asked your father why he got you the pen? Find that out, then come back and vent. I am interested in the answer.

Because he is a pen geek and loves expensive pens. Thus, he concludes that I should love expensive pens, and if I don't, I will once I have one (again). I don't, and almost certainly never will. He doesn't understand this. He also doesn't understand why I would ever want Firefly on DVD, so he concludes that I couldn't possibly actually want that, even though I have told him explicitly that I do.

 

[Kanegrundar]

SR, if you're family and "friends" are actively getting things you don't like, has it ever made you wonder if maybe, just maybe, they don't like you all that much? From this thread it could be your attitude, maybe it's a subtle way of getting you to change? Although, in all honesty, I think you're reading waaaaay too much into the whole "the gifts are insulting since it isn't what I wanted" angle.

 

[elforcelf]

Could you not just say lets just give cash?

 

[reveal]

SR, since you've said so many people give you gifts they know you don't like, have you thought, for one second, that these people really don't like you? And, if so, maybe you should think long and hard as to why they don't like you.

 

[PirateMary]

That is what several posters in this thread have been saying. It doesn't matter what the recipient wants. It only matters what the giver wants to give. For the recipient to voice an opinion on what he'd like to get is selfish and evil. The giver should send him whatever he thinks "gives a piece of himself", no matter what the recipient wants.

Voicing an opinion is not selfish and evil. Tossing the piece of crap gift in the trash before it's even out of the box is selfish and evil. Thinking their intent was to make you unhappy is selfish and evil. Thinking that all the givers of the world have no one but themselves in mind is in itself selfish and evil.